Hi guys, if thats not good to post the hand told me, but here i have new stuff where i am not sure at all, and i think hand review is very efficient to learn about poker.
A8s at HJ i obvious open. BTN and SB calls
Flop i check/call because of the nut flush draw
Turn i check because experts always doing 2 barrels. He bets 150 and i raise 700. He calls
river the less good card i think. With my raise i think i have not a lot of value so i check
Vilain bets. Can I hero fold here or does he have enough dominated flush who would bet ?
I limp AQc in LJ because i was no time lol so i click in the closest button, thats obvious a raise, i have no limp at all in my range , thats just my second session of multitable, i have only 2 if u want to know. CO raise and i decided to 3 bet at 600, he raise 100. CO and SB calls. Flop i am happy to check call with backdoor flush and two overcards. Turn same thinking.
River a queen who complete the flush. I decided to value bet half pot. CO minraise so i have called because of the odds, but i am not sure its good.
Pre ~ A8s is not an obvious open to me. Forget HJ. You are UtG 5-handed here. Your position is bad. I would open much tighter and fold this pre.
Flop ~ As played I don’t mind check-call for nut flush draw. Maybe a better expert player could say otherwise, but you are out of position after all, so if you do bet, bet small.
Turn ~ You have it and you know that he has high chance to barrel so again check-call is good. You want a set or 2-pair to pay you.
River ~ 2 is just terrible card for you. He called 3x pre so the chances of him having K or J is pretty good. If you check this he either bets for value or bluffs you and since he’s been the aggressor on the last 2 streets he probably has it. It’s just a horrible spot. I can’t say that I have an answer for you unless you want to jam bluff 2222. Pretty scary move.
Pre ~ Too bad about the misclick limp. You make up for it with the raise but the pot’s a little bigger than it needs to be, but you’re stack deep, so not big deal. Not perfect but okay.
Flop ~ Checks around. That’s okay, at least you know that everyone’s weak. Just remember that at 6x pre, everyone probably has overcards like you, although kinda someone might be slow playing 88 or99. More likely someone has JJ or AK or something.
Turn ~ Checks around again. At this point who might be drawing? Jx, Tx. JT would be betting value by now. Difficult to decide your action in middle position but be careful, you’re letting people draw for free (and they are letting you draw for free too).
River ~ You bluff spades on a weak table. CO comes overtop. I think this is a call. Pot odds. Pot starts 2k, you bet half to 3k, he comes over 2k to 5k. 1k bet into 5k pot is quite thin. Villain had K5? K5?? Man is he LOOSE! He got buttlucky af! If you call him you win that 8 or 9 times out of ten.
Looking back if you had bet the flop or the turn he almost certainly folds. He was drawing dirt cheap (free). Just a difficult position for you to try to bet off someone who called 6x pre while you’re out of position.
I can’t see your cards.
Pre ~ Limp-call? Are you misclicking again?
Flop ~ Half-pot and he calls, okay. Looks too big but I can’t see your cards.
Turn ~ If you half-pot flop and the turn bricks, why not barrel? You don’t have a K? If he called flop, he might have a K?
River ~ Bomb overbet the A. Very polarizing. Is this a bluff? You say you’re looking for value bets, you must have a K? I need to know your cards.
If you want 3 streets of value start with a smaller flop bet. You’re out of position here again.
Me neither. I can’t see your cards.
Pre ~ 4x is about the absolute minimum open here with 2 limpers. Might want to try 5x. The more limpers, the bigger the opening bet. Try to get one of them to fold. But this is okay.
Obviously they had all missed the board, had busted draws or weak pair weak kick at best. You won. It was fine. Could you have gotten more? Dunno, need to see your cards and obviously depends what they had.
I think you’re coming at this from a late stage tournament mentality. A8s is a pure open here 200bb deep. You can open all suited A’s at 100bb 6 max from UTG, so this is not even close to a fold. @Dudamoti A lot of flushes are going to 3-bet you on the turn, scared of you having the A/Ks and not wanting to see a 4th spade. You’re never good here, just have to fold.
Hand 2 is perfectly played I think (apart from the initial mis-click of course)
Hand 3. Your problems all stem from leading the flop. I’m guessing you have KhTh? I like the turn check, but when the 3-bettor checks back, they’re going to have QQ or JJ a lot. You have to bet the river, you just need to go smaller and use a size that your opponent might think is a worse pocket pair. People hate folding their premiums, so you can still go pretty large, but pot is too greedy.
Hand 4 - if you have a one street hand, the turn is normally the street where you’ll get the most action. If it’s close to a two street hand it must be fairly decent, so it sounds like we’d be happy to get at least one bet called.
Hand 3 I think is the most interesting; the rest pretty standard IMO.
OK Hand 1 is a fun river spot because your options are fold or check-jam which I think actually gets a lot of folds from Jx, worth thinking about. Of course if we bluff a flush here we’re massively overbluffing, but I don’t think it matters much. Call is terrible, you’re basically just handing him money with a flush here <3
Anyway Hand 3 - I like leading the flop here because everyone likes calling cbets, and JJ or QQ will start telling themselves that you are bluffing with AJ or something, because that’s what they’d like to be true and the paired board helps support that story.
The problem with checking turn is that they’re really unlikely to bet for you with those hands. I think opponents will be so fit/fold here that we can just keep betting when we have it and slow down when we don’t. Mixing a check is also fine though and has benefits for the rest of our range/dynamics with this specific opponent.
As played, on the river you probably get the 1 card they were really scared of, which makes it extra bad to try to go big. I would go micro to induce or at most like 60% pot.
Right, but we called the 3-bet pre, so we can’t be c-betting. Terminology aside, I think people are way more cautious about being led into than they are when facing a c-bet. Agree they will still call with their QQ and JJ, because this is always AJ, or the nuts, but you also prevent them from bluffing in a spot where people actually do find bluffs.
I kind of think we only really get one and a half streets of value either way though I guess, and I agree with all the other points you make.
That should just be folded against the 3-bet pre-flop. It’s also a bit thin to bet on the river - you lose to any K and to AQ + AJ now. They can also still have aces, and the hands you do beat just aren’t going to call a big bet.
gambas was what we can name a fish aggro, he as already 3bet with 34o so i highly disagree to the fold, but i need to told you this kind of stuff sry, i was pressed at the moment. And for the value i was thinking this bro would call all of this Ten but maybe not idk
@lihiue’s last point is by far the most important takeaway from all these hands: if you think Villain is much too loose and splashy, the last thing you want to do is take their action away when you have a reasonably strong hand.
I still make this mistake all the time! If they’re that spazzy, just let them bet. The “I have to keep betting to win” dynamic is going to be your biggest source of profit against these players.
, thats just my second session of multitable, i have only 2 if u want to know. CO raise and i decided to 3 bet at 600, he raise 100. CO and SB calls. Flop i am happy to check call with backdoor flush and two overcards. Turn same thinking.