Disgusting

Absolutely gross

Did I make a mistake or just unlucky?

You cant fold a set? :upside_down_face:

Its not even top set.

As played I think you kept your loss to a minimum.

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lol I know that hand by heart, it still makes me physically ill. appreciate the feedback <3

@Chasetheriver how solid would your notes/read on Villain have to be to fold to the river 3bet? bc tbh I was like 90% sure I was gonna be shown a straight and just didn’t have the heart to let it go when I’m still beating some value.

Think you just answered your own question

If you have 10% equity in your head, a min raise is just paying the villain off. Either tell the story you were slow playing AK the whole time and jam or minimize your loses. The villain’s pot sized bet on the flop, check call on the turn. and half pot bet and then the min bet re-raise all screamed I have a straight but not the nuts.

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Yeah. To be fair, 90% is not an actual estimate, more my way of saying “I had a feeling I was screwed” lol.

God, we need a time bank. I am just not capable of making such fast decisions accurately, so I tend to default to “if I’m beating any value imma just call.” I am capable of making more thoughtful decisions than that blunt instrument heuristic, but not always in a matter of a few seconds.

Oh, and I mean I thought he likely had a straight when he came back over my minraise. I was giving him plenty of 2pairs and even some TPTK type holdings before that happened.

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So the mistakes were definitely the final call and a non committal re-raise. I seem to recall someone making a thread about min raising being bad lol. Me thinks you provided exhibit A for that thread :).

I’m shocked that Replay doesn’t seem to have one.

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I think this has to be a raise right?

I think you’ll see people show up here for more often with top pair or two pair than a straight - trying to set their own price because they’re not folding but really don’t want to see a large river bet.

Agree the min raise is bad - it’s just leaving money on the table when they do have the two pair hands that will call larger.

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The suggestion has been made a few times. Don’t know how big of a coding lift that would be or the backlash from all the “stop running out the clock” people. But having 3 time extension chips in leagues or hi stakes tables/MTTs makes a ton of sense.

OK not sure I agree with that last bit of analysis amigo! I do think minraise is rarely a good size preflop until stacks get very shallow, and there are plenty of boards where a larger raise is higher EV. But I kind of like minraise in river spots like this where there are so many hands that will call SOMETHING, but might get spooked by a really big raise.

I had 0 designs on repping broadway; that would’ve been a cool play (and I would’ve gotten snapped lol). I was just trying to go for thin value.

But IDK y’all are probably right and I should kindly ask 2pair to freakin’ pay me. The nitty tendencies of MTT regs on straightening boards have probably infected me with some overly conservative sizing tendencies.

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Well you are the one with 1 billion chips and I am the one with 50 million for a reason lol. What stage of the tournament was this? If this was close to on or the bubble that would influence things too. I just think a min re-raise narrows your range too much and makes the play easier for the villain.

And your right, in hindsight, the villain was calling there no matter what so not going broke is a plus :slight_smile:

Absolutely. In a tough spot for a big pot, how am I supposed to count combos in 15 seconds?

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I just think a min re-raise narrows your range too much and makes the play easier for the villain.

This is a great point.

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Just make the time bank fill based on how quickly you act pre-flop. If you get 1s for every 5s you don’t use pre, you actually give people an incentive to speed the game up, and a handicap to the players always running out the clock.

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this is a great idea!
tagging @Chasetheriver for visibility :slight_smile:

though I think even a 1:1 ratio would be just fine and should by definition not make the games any slower than they already are

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Agreed, a Time Bank would be a big improvement.

Handling how it operates would be a challenge, but it could be managed in such a way that it could not be weaponized to cause problems. Ring game thinking vs MTT Bubble strategy, for instance.

Before we think about high level mechanics of it, I would simply apply a ‘Goes into tank’ option which eats into a Bank of 60 seconds (or whatever) and refreshes to full tank periodically.

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For tournaments, you could just start out with 60s and then reset it at each break or something like that.

For ring, you could just give people an extra 30s every hand. People will probably complain about that, so maybe just don’t have the timebank at all on the lightning tables as a compromise.
(FWIW, I play on a site that does give you 30s every hand, and it is rarely used and never abused in my experience)

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Just looking back at the original HH that started this thread, and it’s pretty funny comparing mindsets depending on what games I’ve been playing:

Me, after 10 months of mostly MTTs: Is this just a fold? Is raising here a punt??
Me, after 10 days of mostly nosebleed Ring: Wow, I lost the minimum.

:joy:

I know this feeling well, I keep running my BR up to around 100 mill , so I can challenge up the food chain, then have a couple bad beats and back to building again. A great player once told me that if you can shed the fear of losing your BR, while in the game, you will always play at the top of your game. Gambling by design always allows a threat to your BR no matter how chip rich you are.
I have enjoyed watching you take a crack at the giants Luke, keep it up! there is no reward without risk!

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Hand #1200872598 ¡ Replay Poker
Not one of my hands but I tried to find a hand in a new thread and this was at the top. Someone clearly pissed off the poker gods. This is pure evil.

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