Should a Player Check Flopped Quads in NLH?

Having flopped quads in No-Limit Hold’em (NLH) is an incredibly strong hand, and the strategy for playing it can vary depending on several factors:

  1. Opponent Tendencies: If you have aggressive opponents who like to bluff or bet into strong hands, you might consider checking to induce them to bet.
  2. Board Texture: If the board is dry (e.g., no straight or flush draws), checking might be a good way to trap your opponents. If the board is wet (e.g., has potential for straights or flushes), you might want to bet to protect your hand.
  3. Position: Being in late position can give you more control over the pot size. If you’re in early position, checking can sometimes disguise the strength of your hand.
  4. Pot Size: If the pot is already significant, a check might encourage a bet from your opponents, allowing you to raise and build the pot even further.
  5. Table Dynamics: Understanding how the table has been playing is crucial. If the game has been tight, a check might keep more players in the hand. If it’s been loose, betting can extract value from players who are likely to call.

Overall, the decision to check or bet with flopped quads should be based on the specific situation, but often, checking can be a good strategy to maximize value.

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That DAWG can hunt!!!. I think you need to add another factor, The Number of players going to the flop. Best way to build a huge pot is to keep as many players in the pot as long as possible and hopefully one or more catch a piece of the flop or turn. Six players to the flop all limping and hero calls from SB. Flopped quads, check and see if anyone wants to play a King or build the pot with a min raise, or try and buy the pot representing the cards you hold. Checks around. Turn there is the Ace. Again check with 5 villains someone has to have an Ace and sure enough one villain tries to get some value with a 1/2 pot bet, hero smooth calls and a second villain calls. King in the River, if the raiser caught a piece with the turn they are really liking their hand now. so check Villian overbets the pot going for value, hero springs the trap (fingers crossed there is not an even better played KK hiding in the villain’s hand cause now Quad 5s are the second nuts, Second villain likely had an Ace and wisely folds given the board and no one is folding Kings full even though it is the 4th nuts on this board. (Only lose to AA, KK, 55 two of which the villain had blocked.) So it was a great play to check each street and it made total sense to extract the maximum.

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Configuration is huge here. In 3bet pots, flopped quads is one of the best hands to bet all 3 streets. Opponents will have a lot of pocket pairs in range, and nobody likes to fold a full house.

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It can work well, They are not going anywhere, There is a old saying:
Why push when a Donkey is pulling.
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But then it has turned out rather poorly too, Had that feeling when root made his 1st call.
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Do NOT need to know how many players etc. etc. etc. YES, you check them, …

It’s not as simple, as you check them every street. And doing that can very easily get you winning the absolute minimum, especially against passive, non aggressive players.

One might ask then, that if you bet against passive, non aggressive players, wouldnt that very easily fold em out and also get you winning the minimum? Yes its possible, but its also very possible, semi probable that a passive, non aggressive player will call down on hands like 44 to AA, trips, etc.

Also if players are call stations, then they will call with AK air.

And all kinds of draws on a wet drawy board can call down if have quads on turn, after flop on a extremely drawy board.

So the right answer on what to do whether to check or bet when you have quads, really depends on:

  1. Is the board drawy? Bet a reasonable size to keep draws in.
  2. Is there a lot of players in the hand? If yes that all 9 players at table in hand, or lots in the hand, then bet small to keep as many players in, to build, bloat the pot up.
  3. Are the players call stations, and will they call with hands like Top pair top kicker, bottom pair, middle pair, 2 pair, 44 to AA, AK air, etc? If yes bet small to keep them in, build, bloat up the pot, and hope they catch up.
  4. Are the other players maniacs, hyper over aggressive, will bet for you? If yes check call the whole way
  5. Will the other players bet, raise, reraise their top pair top kicker, 2 pair, trips, etc? If yes check call the whole way.

Now if, assuming that the other players are standard average, standard mix of all most of types of players, etc. What I like to do is Check the Flop to let others bet for me. Then if nobody does. Bet small to semi mid to semi bigger on Turn, to start building, bloating up the Pot. Some to a lot of players, can, and do think that if you check the flop, and bet the turn, that your weak, and might be semi bluffing, because that if you stronger, had it, that you would bet the flop like 2/3 pot to pot, etc. That can get weaker hands to call you. And if you bet the turn and or the river, and get called, and it goes to showdown, and if the other players see, remember that, then can use that line, to set up bluffs where go check bluff, or check check bluff. Then River I like to bet small to mid after I check flop, bet turn small to mid.

I also like to check or bet according to the 5 points above.

Also many Pros, and coaches like Negreanu, Chris Ferguson, Doug Polk, J Little, and their videos, Bart Hanson at Crush Live Poker, Nathan Black Rain, Upswing Poker, talk about the same things I have in this post, and how important it is to NOT get, win the minimum, when have quads, by doing things like betting big, all in, checking all streets, etc, unless the situation calls for doing those things, and what those situation are, etc.

Those pros, coaches, also explain, that the reason you should occasionally semi bluff, bluff in good spots, once in a while, and show those bluffs once in a while, is so that when you do get Quads, you can bet on 1,2,3 of either the flop, turn, river, after or on the flop, turn, river, and get VALUE, get your Quads paid off, etc.

And it sucks if you either bet big and fold everyone out, or if you check to the river, and if you get the absolute minimum for your Quads.

So if you play according to the players, situations, if you are observant, and if you are not a nit, and if you semi bluff or bluff once in a while, occasionally, and if you show a bluff or get caught and exposed in a bluff occasionally, etc, then you won’t get the absolute minimum for your Quads, and will get your Quads paid off nicely.

So the answer to whether you should check call or bet your Quad’s according to the OP’s posted question is neither answering to check call or bet, but answering that IT DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION.

I know that sounds like a cop out, dodging. But its true.

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Agree, Played it both ways, I’ve bet it strong to have all fold or to have 1 or 2 chase a dead hand, either way I’ll bet the turn & river if no fish are biting.

Yeah, the simple answer is it really doesn’t matter that much. You can get a small bet called for one or two streets a decent percentage of the time, or you can check it down and then win a huge pot on the rare occasions someone ends up with a really strong hand or makes an airball bluff because you seem weak.
Betting is going to win you the most in the long run, but it’s hard to imagine anyone flopping quads often enough that it matters - and if there’s a bad beat jackpot in play then it would definitely be better to check them.

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Protect quads against straights and flushes? What do you mean by protect?

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How to NOT get the money in with flopped quads.

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depend of which quad its, if the board is like JJ2, and you had JJ, you can check, but if the board is like 77A and you had 77, you can target the top ace pair so bet. Way more complex than that, there is not a general response to this, that depend of the board, the position etc

Seems some general information slipped through.

I remember checking it and it didn’t sound right.

The 60-year-old synapses didn’t fire unfortunately to rectify it in time.

I sincerely apologize.

It’s a good thing we’re not in a Star Trek episode.

I would check the quads on the flop. I wouldn’t even wanna make a minimum bet. You know you have the hand won already. My goal would be to keep as many people in the hand as possible so someone makes something strong to go all in with as seen in the first post hand.

I have no problem checking a flop (out of position) to see if anyone has anything, but if everyone checks back, a value bet on turn is mandatory I would think. I’m not leaving that money on the table. If everyone folds to the turn bet, you’ve maxed value anyways.

I depends on their position, chip stack size and if they are at a new table or not (their image), other players style of play etc. etc. … Many factors. Cannot give you a definitive answer as their are so many variables.

Ok, last time, does not MATTER what position, what cards came on flop, how many ppl. etc. TRUST me-i am OLD, you CHECK your quads as here and small (and big) cash games ppl. like to bet-so check n make a nice profit:).

Playing with free “chips” is nothing like playing with real money.

Actually, it is-i play WAY more cash games n just tonight-donkey weekend i call it----Players awww chase n many worse than most here:).

Hi I flopped quads and still lost he had bigger quads nothing is certain on replay cheers

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