Can’t tell you how many times in the past couple of weeks I’ve been felted or crippled in tournaments by hands like this when all or most of my chips are at risk but it’s multiple times a day. Rare is the hand where I bust with the second-best cards going in.
Yep, that was me from about Jan 5 to about Feb 25. I had lost like 15-20% of my bankroll. Just a bad luck run, that was probably extended by me trying overcompensate my play and getting out of balance. Basically, I was probably misinterpreting a couple of weeks of bad luck as bad play, then unnecessarily changing my play and playing worse. Then I won Asian Showdown at the end of Feb and It all turned around in March.
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And just when you think things might be turning around you run into this and this from the same player, and you’re out on the bubble.
and this.
I made top final table… last game w/ pickttpocket… best to hold back … when your close to the bubble… after the bubble… go ahead and preflop bet it all.
i invite you too play the American games open tournament on replay this mo… 2 games a day… ever day… their is a leader board… i just ceroiuse how you wold hold up w/ players like tomkat.. cm681 IPDE and my self… as we only play for the monthly leaderboard..
60 games to take 1st place in that leaderboard
Ha!! Lost another showdown with aces on the way, but I have finally defied the algorithm! I had to suck out to do it, but that’s fine. The other guy was playing a draw too.
The regionals really aren’t that profitable. I played the Asian League all spring and tracked all my results. I made money but it was so much work.
The biggest factor in the regionals is participation. Really that’s it. There is no scoring cap (best 10, first 20, etc). All of your scores count, and there are 60 or 62 (or 56 in Feb) tournaments per month. If you play only 5 of them and cash in all 5 you will NOT hit the leaderboard. There is one player in particular who religiously plays 100% of the Asian tournaments and he’s not that great of a player - or if he is, he is purposely playing very imbalanced. His strategy is to be uber nitty and survive. That’s it. The field will be somewhere between 70-110 and he will always be in the top 25 just by folding 80-90% pre-flop. If he happens to get lucky and take a couple of large pots then he will cash or final table. He is always in the top 5 on the leaderboard every month. It’s that simple.
Here are my stats for January.
1 1 Showdown 7.5k 44/101 - 7387
2 3 Showdown 7.5k 28/ 94 - 8933
3 3 Playtime 20 k 24/101 - 10875
4 4 Showdown 7.5k 6/ 94 33586 19297
5 4 Hangover 20 k 42/111 - 8618
6 5 Showdown 7.5k 21/ 98 - 10532
7 5 Million 20 k 53/124 - 8109
8 6 Showdown 7.5k 3/ 78 79500 24859
9 6 Special 20 k 62/ 92 - 6458
10 7 Showdown 7.5k 16/ 62 - 9597
11 7 Prime 20 k 85/ 90 - 5455
12 8 Showdown 7.5k 65/ 77 - 5307
13 9 Showdown 7.5k 45/ 79 - 6460
14 9 Sunset 20 k 93/109 - 5739
15 10 Showdown 7.5k 49/ 72 - 5910
16 10 Playtime 20 k 56/ 86 - 6570
17 11 Showdown 7.5k 8/ 87 20522 16077
18 11 Hangover 20 k 66/ 95 - 6360
19 12 Million 20 k 13/101 50198 14776
20 13 Showdown 7.5k 66/ 73 - 5128
21 13 Special 20 k 50/ 85 - 6912
22 14 Showdown 7.5k 33/ 74 - 7301
23 14 Prime 20 k 70/ 99 - 6305
24 15 Showdown 7.5k 32/ 86 - 7992
25 15 Travellers 20 k 14/ 96 35520 13882
26 16 Showdown 7.5k 41/ 79 - 6768
27 16 Sunset 20 k 47/103 - 7848
28 17 Playtime 20 k 91/ 94 - 5388
29 18 Hangover 20 k 55/ 96 - 7004
30 19 Million 20 k 59/107 - 7139
31 23 Sunset 20 k 14/ 93 35000 13663
32 24 Showdown 7.5k 11/ 81 12000 13229
33 25 Showdown 7.5k 51/ 79 - 6068
34 25 Hangover 20 k 30/ 93 - 9334
35 26 Showdown 7.5k 48/ 90 - 6676
36 26 Million 20 k 106/109 - 5376
37 27 Showdown 7.5k 90/ 96 - 5035
38 27 Special 20 k 7/ 96 66600 19632
39 28 Showdown 7.5k 5/ 81 41100 19622
40 29 Showdown 7.5k 7/ 74 22500 15851
41 29 Travellers 20 k 71/ 87 -* -
42 30 Showdown 7.5k 20/ 83 - 9932
43 30 Sunset 20 k 2/ 84 297500 34355
44 31 Showdown 7.5k 19/ 78 - 9878
45 31 Playtime 20 k 49/ 85 - 6982
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625 k 694026 444619
So I played 45 tournaments (that’s a lot of work). And I netted a profit of just 69,026. However I did manage to hit the leaderboard quite highly. I finished 5th (probably because I only played 45 … ONLY … 45!!! freaking tournaments) for an extra prize of 150k.
So I paid buy-ins of 625k to win 844k, a net of 219k or a mere 35% (and that includes the leaderboard prize). This amounts to a whopping 4867 chips per entry. : /
I am not being sarcastic when I say that we can do better playing the Ruby League, especially when we consider that we don’t have to grind 40+ 50+ tournaments just to keep up with the nits.
Don’t get me wrong. It’s a good learning experience, but in the long run it’s really not very profitable, and it’s not very challenging to score highly. You just have to enter every freaking day, twice per day and be nittty. In fact, if you don’t play nitty enough, you risk busting in 72nd place and cost you valuable points on the leaderboard. It is actually more profitable to stay out of big pots without nuts. So it’s not a good test of solid balanced poker play, and hitting the board high there is nothing to brag about.
There’s your solve for the Regionals. Now go spend an entire month daily grinding it for 5k to 10k profit per entry. Enjoy. : /
Can’t find it in the promos. Can you link me so I can have a look? Cheers.
That’s a popular line of thinking. Others believe you shouldn’t fold good hands because you’re afraid to take a beat, and that reluctance should be exploited. I believe my sole focus should be on winning the tournament, not any interim goal like making the money or final table (not that I’m implying that’s how you think).
This thread is about struggling to break out of a run of bad beats. You may have noticed how Napkin suggested deviating from your best poker is not the best idea. I agree with her.
1st game for the leaderboard is tonight… in 4hrs from now
I’m sry.. you don’t fell… tight up your game.. is not a good strategy.. to get in the winner cilcle is a bad idea… on how to break a losing streak… my bad…
Yeah, if it’s lower stakes, I wouldn’t be into it. Cheers.
The tournaments are all on the MTT list in the lobby. They are in red text so easy to spot. There are 4 leagues and they all run daily.
Oceanic 7.5k @ 2am and 20k @ 3:15am
Asian 7.5k @ 8am and 20k @ 9:15am
European 7.5k @ 2pm and 20k @ 3:15pm
American 7.5k @ 8pm and 20k @ 9:15pm
all times US Eastern
The leaderboards are in the promotions page, open the sidebar for “Regular Leagues” and scroll waaaaaayyyy down past the Gemstones and the Astrals, you will see the 4 Regional leaderboard links.
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I’m not sure I understood that.
a) I don’t fell?
b) What Napkin said was that altering a strategy that had been successful because you’re having bad luck is a bad idea.
c) Separately, I was saying I believe (which is not the same as I know) that I should have one goal, which is to win. I know other people think differently and that’s fine. It’s still a free world and we’re exchanging ideas.
d) Tightening up one’s game is always an option, as long as that doesn’t mean passing up opportunities. For instance, sometimes (not always) you raise from the button, cutoff, or hijack with middle suited connectors when the action has folded to you. If you fold rather than raise, you pass up the chance to steal some blinds, bluff a Broadway flop, or catch a straight or flush to surprise your opponent. That sort of tightening up can hurt you. I think the kind that can help is not trying to catch a bluff when you don’t have a strong hand. You?
Right. Or in other words, this…
…is not actually a good thing (which I know pickettpocket gets). It might be unavoidable short term, but long term it means we’re leaving money on the table. Same thing if our bluffs mostly get through, we rarely value own ourselves etc.
It’s actually a really good demonstration of how stats can be much more powerful than feel - because all those things feel great, but really just indicate risk aversion. That will take you a decent way against weak opponents, but eventually you’re going to hit a wall you don’t have the tools to break through. If your collecting the right stats, that will show up before you get to that point, and it will be much easier to fix earlier on.
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If you’re saying I don’t just raise monsters preflop, you’re right. What I meant was that I don’t try many bluffs when I’m <10bb. Nor do I view a coin flip as having 2nd best, even if I am the 48%er. The rarity is that I shove with AQ and someone has AK, or I have JJ and they have QQ (for me it always seems to be just the one rank higher-- 
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Yes. But to be clear, if we take a couple of suckouts to a certain Villain’s imbalance, we absolutely can adjust our game in spots against THAT Villain to exploit his imbalance, but we do not alter our whole game just because we had a run of bad luck.
If we have a strategy that we believe in because we have had consistent success with it, we should not abandon it over a run of suckouts to fishy play.
Obviously none of us here have a perfect game otherwise we would not have day jobs and would not have time for play chips, so we are always looking to find ways to alter our game for the better. The fact that you diligently track stats will help you separate your bad luck from actual leaks in your game. Furthermore, when we move up stakes to tougher competition it will be natural to have less success and obviously will need to adapt accordingly.
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