That doesn’t make any sense, given that the vast majority of the highest ranked played (ie. those with the biggest bankrolls) have never once purchased chips. Just ask any of the high rollers, it might just surprise you.
Just so people know the AA percent here is skewed because a third A was dealt out to one of the players. Without that third ace out there percent is closer to 20 which is better than the kings.
Moderators is chosen from players who wanted to be. They usually skilled players in the play chips era. I was for 4 years, I think I helped lots of good thing for RP. First year I rid off very bad players who did huge harm to the site.
Your comment is very offensive and have no ground to you to speak like that.
You should look up more info before you make a bold comments like this. If I would still moderator, I would IP ban you for good as any other site would do.
Not like it, don’t play, go somewhere else but not ruin others fun.
bye
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Renamed this topic from ‘Fair or unfair game’ to ‘The fairness debate’ - given that it’ll be our main topic which we’ll merge any topics related to game fairness, so everything is kept in one place.
Hi,
After reading so many comments about rigged games I tried a simple experiment. I got a new deck of cards and dealt 100 hands to six imaginary players, keeping the stats as I went along.
No blinds, bets or bluffs. No folds or raises or all-ins. No human input at all apart from the shuffle. Just the numbers.
Here are the stats if you’re interested.
Best hand preflop won only 25% of the games.
31% were won on the flop.
27% on the turn.
42% on the river.
Seat 1 20.33% wins.
Seat 2 20% wins.
Seat 3 14.83%
Seat 4 17%
Seat 5 15.83%
Seat 6 11%
There were two split hands which accounts for the fractions.
Now, Seat 6 would swear that the game was rigged against him while seats 1&2 would say that they played very well.
Neither would be right.
well done blackbar im curious as to what the hands were.not saying or accussing any wrong doing.for example a tourney yesterday I saw in the beginning 6 hands.thats 1st 6. 3full houses and 3 straights.i do know this could possibly happen in the real world.how often probably not much.the bottom line is everyone makes their own choices on staying or folding getting burned on the river sucks.but we have all been on both sides of the fence its agame.if you take it to serious its not enjoyable any more. hope u luck playin…hd101
Thanks hd.
Considering that I’ve played nearly 40,000 hands in 3 months 100 hands is a very tiny sample. I didn’t record each hand (life’s too short) but there were very few hands of note. There were three full houses, all filled by players with low unsuited hole cards, and a few straights and trips. The vast majority of the winning hands were unremarkable, pairs and two pair. There were six pocket pair and the only one that went on to win was pocket aces.
That’s about all I can remember about the hands.
Bar.
Very interesting,and a good albeit limited experiment.One reads stats about hands,but I can’t think when I last or indeed ever heard of position being mentioned.Sure does make one think.I just hope this doesn’t encourage me to haemorrhage chips on the river with busted flushes!Thanks for the data.
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Hi jonnine,
I have often felt that I was just in a bad seat and found that when the tables were re positioned my luck changed. I play fairly tight myself, with occasional moments of lunacy but, small as it is, that sample shows that if you slow play a good hand on the flop you have a good chance of being beaten.
Thanks for the comment.
Bar.
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Hey guys just a little input from my minimal experience. I DO NOT believe the site is rigged from the stand point of screwing certain players. But i do believe that there are more exciting hands than we might see in real life.
Example: Replay= more full houses and flushes.
Real life: More hands decided by 1 pair, 2 pair 3 of a kind. these are the hands i rarely win with on Replay
Just my thought, good luck all 
benjyh31, I agree that there are more exciting hands than in live poker, but I do not believe it has anything to do with the random number generator or cards on this site. First of all, in online poker you can play many more hands per hour, so there is more opportunity for crazy situations. Plus, with free chips more players are in each hand and they stay in longer, so it is more likely that someone catches a big hand.
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My statistic question is how often a flop should show a pair, OR 3 suited cards? Seems like every 3rd hand is one or the other in Replay world. Does not seem right. Operative word is SEEM. No hard facts. Dont see that in home games, etc. Granted we run through a huge number of hands per hour here. Maybe I just notice it because it never SEEMS to be to my advantage.
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I have said the same thing too! In real live games, a pair is a big hand. Someone gets trips the table erupts! Here… “oh look, a royal flush just beat my 4 aces…just like 2 hands ago!” Cmon!
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The probability of a pair on the board on the flop is 17% (or about 1/6), 30% on the turn, and 42% by the river, and the probability of 3 of the same suit on the flop is 5% (1/20), 18% on the turn, and 37% by the river.
So, the probability of a flush or a full house by the river is extremely high.
The difference is that online poker is faster so more hands are played, and the chips are free so more people chase hands to the river.
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Thank you Blackbar for the interesting post. The only problem with stats is that they are just that, stats. The laws of probability and possibility change so quickly with the human equation thrown in it becomes harder and harder to keep up. Throw in the changing number of players at any given table changes the percentages/laws again. The human equation is terribly hard to simulate… even with human beings.
I’ve said it often and I’ll say it again here.
Replay is a good game, fun to play, frustrating beyond measure … but it is not Poker.
Sit at a live, 9 seat table and it’s rare that more than 2 or 3 players stay to see the flop, at Replay it’s rare for 2 or 3 players to get out before the flop.
Without serious consequences for staying “on the come” Replay CANNOT be Poker.
It’s not a bad game, it’s a fun game, but it’s not Poker … and Thank God for that, I lost my shirt way to many times before I swore off Poker.
Because chips are free, and so many people chase hands to the river, Replay cannot be Poker … get over it!
imafraid your bias because of your ranking but in games with top players when i have a winning hand my time runs out
definitely rigged for pay
all your top 500 have all bought chips ill bet u cant bet them
JoeDirk
You are right i had not taken that into consideration like i should have seeing how an online SNG takes about 30 minutes to 1 hr, yet in real life can take 3 or more.
So i have to agree we do play more hands in a shorter period of time and that could have some effect on how many good hands we see. Plus people fold way more in a real game, online most of the time they will stay in at least as long as the flop which allows a greater probability for a good hand!
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