I love to play after work a few Hands or a MTT but very often there are player that go all in, in the every single round/hand…
I don´t know what to do when this happens, because I just want to play.
What did you guys do in that situation?
Because its very annoying!!
Thanks
Your options are:
In that order. Should this player keep going all-in in the early to mid stages then they won’t be a problem for you for long. Either they will win a few chips and be moved off to another table or bust out and be eliminated.
Once you’ve identified that the player is playing super aggressive, if you’re behind them it might be wise to just not raise. If you do get a monster hand, then you can use their aggressive plays as a cover. Calling a raise or raising with anything less than a monster hand may just be throwing chips away unless you’re prepared to call the inevitable all in.
Either way these aggressive players help you. They guarantee a few eliminations if not their own, and that gets you closer to the money.
So don’t be discouraged by this behaviour. Realise that in every action you have to take, no matter what position you’ve been put in, you still have the oppertunity to make the best decision. Just because continuously folding is the best decision doesn’t mean you’re helpless, it just means you’re continuously making the right decision.
That is an advice thank you soo much for your time and the good explanation 
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I will try it today probl. in the evening 
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The standard advice given in these forums is to play tight and wait for them to bust or until you have a monster hand yourself, but I think that’s a terrible strategy.
These players are trying to donate their chips, someone is going to take them eventually, that someone should be you. Don’t wait for a premium hand, you only need a hand that is likely better than whatever 2 cards your opponent has (as long as there aren’t players still to act who are likely to call too). It’s going to be frustrating the times they do show up with a very strong hand, but not anywhere near as frustrating as when you wait ages for a premium hand only to have your aces cracked by some random nonsense.
There’s not many spots in poker where you can be as certain that the odds are in your favor. My advice would be to get comfortable taking a gamble against maniacs. Like you mentioned, there’s always plenty of them around, so it will pay off in the long run.
I tend to agree with this advice, especially when it’s time to feed the dog,
the doorbell keeps ringing, or you still have plenty on your " to do list " to check off.
It’s a heck of a lot different if you traveled thousands of miles to get to the WSOP
and the first hand someone at your table goes all in.
Really have no choice but to fold.
Imagine being the first person to get wiped out at WSOP. Nobody goes there thinking it would ever be them, yet it has to be someone
Right. There’s always going to be exceptions. Another would be if you already have a substantial stack heading into the later stages of a tournament. The potential reward might not be worth the risk in that case.
Imagine being the first person to get wiped out at WSOP. Nobody goes there thinking it would ever be them, yet it has to be someone
Damn, that would have been a good video for my recent thread!
That was brutal
bite your tongue be patient
Hi Hoernchen1, 
I took a look at some of your hands today and I noticed you were playing freerolls. If you continue to play freerolls you will not be able to avoid this behavior. I empathize with your frustration but the only thing I can suggest is to start playing higher stakes. For the most part players in the high buy in MTTs play a more disciplined style of poker (though not all). Sadly, poor play is everywhere and at all levels but I think it is a more enjoyable game at the higher buy ins. Be aware, you will most certainly play against a higher number of more highly skilled players at the high buy in games. Hope this helps.
Cheers!
Often I play tight against these ppl , I will get AA and they will call with, say 4-8 off and I often lose. Its discouraging.
Right. That’s why you shouldn’t play tight against these people. You pass up so many chips by not being willing to battle with a wide range that you put yourself in a position where you need your premium hands to hold every time, but that’s never going to happen.
This video is quite timely and definitely worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iShAJLv4zlQ
Maniac player shoves 100% of his range in the early stage of a 9 handed MTT. Eff. stack is 100 bb, Villain is in UTG, you are in MP with AJo, it folds to you. What do you do and why?
you will lose 15% of the time though…
if we toss a coin and every time heads comes up you pay me 2 dollars and every time tails comes up i pay you 20 dollars.
I win 50 straight in a row, are you going to feel discourage and not want to keep betting me?
I’d be all-in. You’re only in terrible shape against aces, and that’s only 3 combos, so the chances of anyone yet to act or the maniac waking up with pocket rockets is slim. The value of having a 2x+ starting stack early on has to be worth way more than busting out early costs, given that you shouldn’t expect to cash in the majority of tournaments anyway.
Of course if someone is more concerned with just having fun and playing as deep into tournaments as they can, I wouldn’t fault them for folding. You can’t really criticize the maniac players in that case though - they’re not actually making a strategic mistake if everyone plays super tight against them.
You are also in a terrible shape if someone behind has JJ+ AQ, AK, so more combos…
you mentioned that we shouldn’t play tight against these people. what would your calling range be in my hypothetical example?
You are right about the advantage of having an early big stack but I believe that if you have enough of an edge you shouldn’t jeopardize your tournament life in a marginal spot in the hopes of building a bankroll fast.
You’re not actually in that bad of shape against someone behind waking up with JJ+, AQ+. You still have 20-30% equity and there’s now 300bb in the middle. It’s not good, but it’s not terrible either.
I don’t think you can ever have an edge so big that passing up on spots like that makes sense. Your tournament life is just not worth that much unless the situation is exceptional in some way.
ok fair enough, I just did the math and yeah it’s just -EV if we get call with a JJ+, AQ+ range from behind and the ATC villain. We would actually be 22% and have a -12 bb EV. Terrible spot if we get a call behind. it still feels wrong when there are multiple players yet to act, you said that our MTT life holds no value, whats the thinking behind of this? I try to avoid -EV spots and having many callers behind is a bad spot in my opinion to call with AJo
I disagreed with your opinion of not playing tight vs maniacs that shove ATC. When there are spots that in my opinion you should be playing tight. But what would your calling range be then?