Congratulations LiteBrite, you finished first in the burden of proof fallacy tournament. Your prize is to have to argue that the Earth is flat, because it looks flat.
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Not true. The addicts are the ones who continue to play and lose at a game that the claim is rigged against them. Only an addict would do that.
Itās relatively easy to prove although it would take some patience to collect the data and crunch the numbers. A flush draw completes 34% of the time in a random deck. Collect 100k hands and pick out the flush draws and see if they complete 40% or more for Villain or 30% or less for Hero. Then you will have a case. But if you do this and realize that everything is fair, you will have to give up your addiction to blaming the site for the errors in your game.
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NLHE Sprint First 7 last night 24 April 2025. Down to last 2 my QQ v her KQ of course she rivers a K.
Next hand my 99 called (???) by her T3 (???) of course she flukes a tenā¦Not word again from her. No apology for the double suckout.
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Now, there was nothing that you could have done to win this hand as it ran out. Villain was just too dumb to fold, but if you play many of your hands like that one, you are losing far more chips to your own errors than to suckouts and bad beats.
Ok, you did a ton wrong, here. Iām not trying to be rude.
First, you limped UtG. Youāre the first to act, 3rd seat of 5 or 6 before the table filled in a moment later. Limping here with 6 seats or more is even worse. No matter what 2 cards you have, never limp UtG. Either raise a strong opening or fold. Limping here is losing poker. A) every good player at the table is going to spot you for a fish. B) KTs is good hand but being out-of-position with it will be trickier to play post flop if you hit soft. In position we can hit this soft but oop we really want to hit hard. Hitting a flop happens about 1 in 3 times, but hitting hard happens maybe 1 in 9 or 10. By hard we mean 2-pair or better or a front door (not back door) draw. C) you will almost certainly be in a multiway pot if you limp, we donāt want that. D) any time we are in a multiway limp pot we MUST hit hard. E) a flop for 1 or 2 BB will mean that all kinds of garbage will call and we wonāt be able to put anyone on a hand. 72 could even call and hit 2 pair and we would never see it coming. If we limp we are BEGGING to get sucked out. If you are limping pre from early and mid position, THIS is why you are getting sucked out so much. F) You are begging to get squeezed (get raised from behind). G) post flop it will be harder for you to bluff if you whiff because you are not giving anyone any reason to believe that you are strong. Your bluff bets will not be respected and get called more often.
Now, that flop. You are upset that Villain buttlucked a boat on the river. You do understand that you almost equally buttlucked that flop, right? You needed to hit it hard and you did! Omg, glorious flop for us. Trips Is is far better than just tip pair Ks because our not bad not amazing T kicker is less crucial with trips than with pair.
Here is a question for you. What would you have done if the flop was K5A? That would suck! What about 234 or monotone clubs? These would be vomit. No we got a gift from heaven KK5.
Ok now about that turn bet. You say that you didnāt know what to put him on. Of course not, he saw the flop for 2x. You canāt range him. However you said you didnāt care about the straight. You should care.
But either way, if we think we are ahead we should bet value, something small enough that we know that he can call. Instead we bet huge. Again we were lucky that Villain was dumb enough to call. 99 times out of 100 Villain folds to that and we make no profit with our gorgeous hand. You are winning hands this way but losing money - tons of money when you do this. Size down and get calls here. Betting way too large here does 2 bad things. A) all the hands that you beat will fold and not pay you, and B) all the hands that beat you will take a huge chunk of money from you, hands like AK, KQ, KJ or any 2 clubs. With the flush in on the turn, this was a bad spot to do that.
You say you wanted to rep the flush here. If you thought you were ahead, why would you bluff him off? If youāre ahead you want to get paid. If you thought you were behind, the only hands folding to flush that beat you are AK, KQ, KJ and those are a very small part of his range.
If this is how you regularly play your hands, you are losing far more chips to your poor bet sizing than you are to suckouts and bad beats.
Hope this helps.
Ha, i kind of enjoyed reading it:)
Ha, it is rigged when i loseāwhen i win all skill:)
STOPPPPPPPPPPPP, please----i play small cash games n play here-------i see all kind of crazy hands at both------NOT rigged----we play a lot of hands online (WAY more than in the casino) and it happens-----i also see good players win at both places and bad players lose ( in the long run ).
not at all. just a bunch of blah blah blah
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if there was a ace I check and then fold any bet because every Ace hand gets played. just stop acting like I know nothing about poker.
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I donāt know if you know ānothing about poker,ā but you sure sound a lot like every other player who never actually learned theory/strategy and has arrived at a bunch of common wrong conclusions (about both how to play and the odds of certain outcomes) through unchecked personal inference.
Respected poker coach Jonathan Little on the topic:
Downswings happen in online poker all the time, and while the pros out there understand why and how they happen, recreational players often express doubts about the fairness of the software they are playing on the moment they run into a bad stretch.
And as others have repeatedly pointed out, if you really donāt trust anything but your own two eyes you can always see for yourself:
If you are an avid online poker player and have played enough hands of online poker, you can see that online poker is not rigged. All you need to do is save all your hands on your PC and use software like Holdāem Manager or PokerTracker to pull up all relevant data about your play.
You will be able to see just how often you have lost with aces, how many times the flush got there in big pots, or any other parameter you may think is rigged.
Once you have a big enough database, you will start to notice that every single scenario in online poker happens at exactly the frequency it is supposed to. Of course, donāt try to run such an analysis on a hand sample of a thousand hands of poker, as such a small sample will never yield correct results.
Keep going over your own hands or hands played by your friends, and you will see that there is nothing wrong with the RNG or the algorithms.
None of you guys EVER DO THIS. Why? Because deep down I think you know you are wrong but prefer to live in denial because it is pleasant to always have the excuse that you lost because the fix was in
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Good, now weāre being honest. Those of us who have a basic understanding of numbers will deal in irrefutable facts, and those on the other side of the aisle will insist they are right for absolutely no good reason and then say ālolā when their position gets backed into a corner
We understand each other now <3
no. just laugh at you. Iāve seen and played enough hands make my own conclusions
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The residents are predictably boring in their replies. Online poker is an amusement to be played as any other amusement attached to the internet. Cautiously and judiciously without childish debates of the obvious insecure nature of the medium. That in addition to playing any game that requires addiction disclaimers and toll free addiction help lines and rehabilitation programs. Just give the integrity crap a rest already. Grifters.
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Iāve seen and played enough hands make my own conclusions
Iām sure thatās true, and if you took the time to actually compile your data, those conclusions would look very different from the arbitrary heuristics youāve assembled through a combination of selection bias and strong feelings
@T-1OOO nice ramble, got any more?
You guys are just ignorant. I guess when one is repeatedly mistaken in the face of correcting information then at some point it becomes valid to say āstupidā instead, but that seems mean. So Iāll stick with āignorant.ā
None of you has made a single credible or valid claim, because your position doesnāt have any to offer. You will do what people who think like you always do: insist youāre right, ignore any substantive challenges to your position, and attempt to use scattered, cherry-picked, vague anecdotal evidence as a counter to something like āthis outside auditor checked millions of hands and the distribution is fair.ā
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If you think thereās something fishy or irregular about the way the cards are dealt on Replay, start tracking all your hands and analyze the results after you have gathered 10k data points.
That is still a fairly small sample, but itās at least big enough to make some reasonably reliable observations about the frequency distribution.
If you donāt want to do this, you should frankly keep your little musings to yourself, because thatās all they are.
No one cares that you feel like your aces always get cracked, nor should theyāitās a truly meaningless statement without data to back it up.
I donāt disagree with any of that. Soā¦ admit that you canāt prove the site is rigged, or prove it and I will happily admit that I was wrong - either way we can end this childish debate. You could easily silence all us doubters for good and make us look like fools, or you can continue to ramble on with unfounded conspiracies and make yourself look like one.