8 handed, UTG and UTG +1 Fold, Vilain 1 open at the Lo Jack, i have KdQh in the hijack, vilain 1 just join the table.
Do I call, 3bet bluff (dont seems reg so no) or ever fold but they dont squeeze enough i think so i decided to call.
For the tflop i have 2 overcard and backdoor flush but in 4 way i think i cant call
As played, that’s a good fold.
He opened 2x and stack depth is not an issue. I would have 3-bet him to 4x or 5x and seen what he’s made of. Then again I’m the worst player here so take that with a grain or two of salt.
He opened Lojack so i think his range is like that :
All right then, I stand corrected. Go ahead and call with unsuited overs against a 2x PFR. My next question is, if you really think he doesn’t have it, the board is straightable, flushable and paired, why not come overtop?
It’s a mandatory 3-bet, and it’s for value. If someone has a much better hand than KQ, you’re likely to get 4-bet and can just fold.
Don’t forget that the raise is after posting blind too, so I think the range here can be even wider than normal.
The main thing though is that you really don’t want to invite both blinds in by calling, or give the CO and BTN the chance to squeeze. Your equity realization is terrible if you call.
That’s only for your 3-bet to auto profit from folds. You still have a ton of equity with KQ if called. You’re going to be ahead of the range that calls, so a bigger pot is better for you.
I agree that LJ (let’s call it what it is - MP) should keep him tighter, but a 2x raise is meh. That widens him. I would have bet him 4x or probably 5x pre.
As played, on this flop, well he just sat down so we don’t know him from the Pope but I would think that all A-rag is in his range here, all mid and low pocket pairs, heck 43s is probably there due to the 2x opening with everyone so deep. There is a lot of ways that he can hit this. You have 2 overcards and a K-flush draw. I’d gtfo. (shrug)
So you’re saying that he’s effectively on a BB range, not an MP range since he literally just sat down and posted. That’s a good point.
Please throw your charts away lol:)…You got to play THE players and have a chart in your head–i remember years ago this guy always had a chart n taking notes at the table (played on and off with him for 5 years) and he never lost much, he also never won much:).
2x open from MP probably represents as wide a range as you could imagine. KQo is a 3bet all day, and I’d use a pretty large size - something like 500 or more.
We will take down a nice little pot with that raise a very high % of the time. The rest of the time, we’ll be up against a very questionable range that we can bully on a lot of runouts in position.
As played yeah we can’t really continue on this flop. Kinda proves the point.
I way way too play like they played a bit ok I think I need to change mindset but that’s hard in game for me for the moment
i respond with my other account today 
Just watch some Hungry Horse vids on YouTube, that is the mindset you want against these guys
thx i would check this night
Just remember. The cheaper the flop, the more junk can hit, so villain is always wider (and he sees you wide too, or at least he should if he’s smart). 2x is pretty cheap. Who is going to call 4x with 75o? Not many. Who is going to call 2x with 75o? Actually quite a few. If it’s a limp flop, even 72 could be there so on cheap flops EVERY card on the board is potentially a scare card. ; )
If you have good cards, make Villain(s) pay to flop with you. The board will be easier to read and you will have better odds to win showdown against fewer opponents. ; )
