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Thanks for posting that. I’m not surprised that most are not profiting despite being good players, that play very well. That could be, probably is variance. But I also suspect some of it is that with pay outs being about 275k over 5 to 10 spots, instead of 500k or 750k over 5 to 10 spots, plays a role.

If someone plays to win, and has a very good, say 23% cash, ITM rate, and about a 7 to 10 to 13% win tourny rate(also very good), then when that happens, they are only getting about 25k to 85k about 7% to 23% of time, which isnt enough to offset losing 20k buy ins 77% of time.

That means players will have to try to squeeze, pop into cashing instead of playing to win, even if they are the best. And even if they play to cash, that might not be enough. The good players who are profiting are profiting because of their skill, but luck, variance, plays just as big a part, maybe even a bigger part.

That means players will have to either play to cash, or have bigger pay outs, so that when do cash, or win, about 23% of time, it will be enough to profit, instead of being in the losing column.

i’m going to either have to adjust my play to cash more often, or have pay outs increased, or resign myself to being in losing column unless I get lucky and variance smiles on me.

I have 2.4 mil, about 100 buy ins, so semi properly rolled, but Im going to have to either cash in league play often, or have to finance league play with non league play tournaments, and only play league play if I am bankroll healthy, etc.

I wish the Nordic tournaments paid out more because of this.

But I am ok with it the way it is, and am ok if I end up in loss column, instead of profit column, as long as I dont bust my bankroll, go broke playing league tournaments, as I really like playing such good, tough competition.

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The payouts are driven by the Basic Replay payout formula. The exact same formula as any other tournament. The number of spots paid is based on the number of entrants and the prize pool is (Buy in - tournament fee) x number of entrants. So as an example for a tournament with 30 players, 5 spots are paid and the pay out is: 1st place gets about 40% of the prize pool, 2nd about 24%, 3rd about 16%, 4th about 12%, 5th about 8%. (220K, 133K, 88.8K, 66.6K, and 44.4K) One win in 11 games and you are even money.

For special games Replay gives us chips to add to the prize pool (IE 2M added to the EB anniversary game). For standard games they do not.

We set the buy in at 20K so the buy in doesn’t act as a filter. Whether someone is a good player or not has nothing to do with their replay rank and bankroll. Plus winning 220K on a 20K buy in is a good reward.

Last quarter I won 5 games and cashed 14 times for about a 1 million chip net profit. This quarter I have only cashed once. That is what happens when you have a league with the best players and you want more to join your league. I play every game to win not cash, but I want to have a fun group of people to play some great poker with too. We have a friendly and competitive league and that is the ultimate goal.

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Nordic Warrior League Members!
Today’s first game is called Thor’s Hammer
Saturday 20k entry! NL Omaha Hi/Lo
Game Tonight at 6:30pm EST.
Here is a link to tonight’s first game

Thor’s Hammer

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I’d play, but I think I suck at Omaha Hi/Lo, especially if its limit, pot limit Omaha Hi/Lo. I’m ok at no limit Omaha tho. Good Luck to those playing.

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got it thanks

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In 90 minutes!!!

Our second Saturday game tonight is called
“Odin’s Army” 20k entry!
No Limit Holdem at 9pm EST.
Here is a shortcut link to tonight’s game.
Odin’s Army

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Thanks for the notice. Good Luck to everybody.

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Thor said it best, “:STOP HAMMER TIME!!!” 23 warrior came in from the hot summer sun to enter the heat of battle at the poker table. @Bradspam and his cardshark of a cat charged to the prize tonight, Joe @Excaliburns showed us former champions are still a force to be reconned with for second,
, @-krista- shown thru like a diamond to finish 3rd, and @DonkeyHaute, who still claims to not be good at omaha, finished in the chips again in 4th. Well done all!

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Thanks to those that played. Had lots of fun. Congratz to those who made either final table, final 5, that played well even if missed final 5, final table, busted out early, etc. Awesome, tough competition. I made it to final table, as tourny chip leader, where I got bad beat out for the 3rd, 4th, 5th time, on top of a AK suited lost coinflip. So I think I played well again, but I got lucky, before got unlucky against such a good field. Thanks all. It was awesome.

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Oh and I made a semi hero fold folding KQ suited, top pair, top kicker to Donkhaute’s reraise all in over another players raise, and other player called and was beat by a set of 5’s.

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Warriors!! Player appreciation time again!
The Leagues Invitation Open
Game time is Sunday at 11 AM EST
Here is a link to the game
https://www.replaypoker.com/tournaments/6815882
This game is for all leagues Invitational members, this includes members of Early Bird, Dream Weavers, WILDHORSES, Poker Amusement and Nordic Warriors.
It’s a 5k entry player appreciation game with 1,000,000 added. There will be two games every month on the first and last Sunday of every month. First game of month will be NL Omaha Hi/LO and the last game of the month will be NL Holdem
Registration is now open and from now on will be open for one week prior to games.

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Thank you all for the forum posts! and thank you @_snowman and @southwestmba for answering all the questions, what a great group we have here, I am so happy with the way this league has developed, thank you all for being a part of this league.

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@Asuronetorius this league has never been about the chips, it’s about winning against some of the best poker players Replay has to offer, most of our players have large BRs and do not need the chips, they play to beat the list of names that show up, and or win the quarter. I put the entry at 20k so new players could give it a shot without breaking their bank.

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Saturday night is alright for fighting and 30 warriors came to brawl. We were treated to a couple of masters battling heads up. For the second night in a row holdem king Norris the @_snowman was too cool for summer winning an epic heads up war with @Bradspam who was one card from winning both Saturday night games, never been done. @Southwestmba danced around alot and avoided the haymakers for 3rd, @Zarcon411 got his second Holdem cash of the weekend in 4th, and @Lelaina summoned her inner Layla Ali for 5th. @Excaliburns may have bubbled but finishing 2nd and 6th on the same night is pretty darn good. Also @Asuronetorius made it well known that he is going to be a force making the final table in his 2nd Nordic Warriors game. Congrats, it is a pleasure playing with each of you in this league.
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Thanks Southwestmba.

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  • HUMBLE SUGGESTION *

(if you put the word humble at the beginning of an annoying post, it makes you not rude! :kissing_heart: )

I think a weekly Deep Stack PKO would be a great addition to the rotation. This is my favorite league because everyone is a thinking player (in addition to being chill) and the quality of play is always high.

The downside of this is that few players punt and everyone plays heavy ICM around the bubble (whether or not they use the fancy jargon). Like others I am motivated here by competition and camaraderie, not “financial” incentive; that said, personally sometimes it’s hard to get it up for an hour of folding 90% of hands in a 20k.

I would enjoy having at least 1 game a week where the format made it easier to have some play in the late stages. To be quite candid: I am well aware of the strategy that would result in more/higher finishes in this league; I just find it too boring to adopt. Poker is fun; folding A9o from the CO because you have 12bb and have had 12bb for the past hour is not.

A Deep Stack (starting >= 300bb) structure would allow for a greater % of hands to be played in the more dynamic phase of the game. A PKO structure would incentivize marginal play and make it a bit less lucrative to just nit it up.

Again I cannot stress enough how much fun this league already is! But I will admit that FT/bubble play is often more or less a GTO push/fold party due to extremely shallow stacks, which is an interesting exercise in knowledge and execution, but not necessarily the most thrilling.

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@Younguru I think that is a good idea. When the PKO tournaments first came out, the Saturday early game was a PKO hold’em tournament, since a large number of players in Nordic Warriors helped with the Beta Testing for PKO and like the format. However that made the game mix unbalanced 3 holdems to 1 Omaha HiLo. So we converted the Saturday early game to Omaha so we have a 2 and 2 balance. This was suggested and approved by the members at the time. If we ever expand, that format is certainly on the table, but time slots are at a premium especially in the evenings.

One of the reasons we created the Leagues Invitational was to find a spot for games and formats which are “underserved” like that and open them up to a wider group of players. I think that format would be a great fit for a trial run there. @_Rain what do you think?

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Can’t say enough about my appreciation for all the organizing work @southwestmba and @_Rain do. You guys are the NUTS <3

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@Younguru …I agree with you bro! Michael and Mba do a stellar job running this league they both work very hard and have formed the BEST league there is! Thank you both and thanks to ALL the awesome players ! I am a proud member ! Nordic Warriors rock!!!

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@_snowman Norris …Bro…U came back from a extreme low short stack to win this stellar!!! Much congrats 2 u ! I tried every way I could 2 bust u :rofl: could NOT do it well well deserved win bro! Much Respect!

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