Well, I respectfully disagree.
I wrote a program to play 72o vs. 32o heads up, and after 15 seconds of play (200,000 hands) here are the results:
72o: Wins 56%
32o: Wins 26%
Ties: 18%
Like I said above, even though 32o is connected, the odds of the potential straight coming into play is relatively low…and the 7 has the 3 dominated in all other cases.
If I’m missing something, I’d love to learn…
Can’t win for losing no matter how I play i can’t win, i called it REPLAYED
I’m interested in why everyone thinks 72o is the “worst hand.”
Off-suit 7/2 is the worst hand in the game because there’s nothing you can do with it except hit more 7s and more 2s. I completely agree that other hands are equally as bad, but I don’t agree that any are worse. I don’t discriminate between trash hands. Something either is or is not trash. The fact that off-suit K/2 is a better hand than off-suit 7/2 is irrelevant to me. While there may be a tiny difference between off-suit 9/4 and off-suit 7/2, the difference is completely unimportant, because it’s no reason to play 9/4.
Unless someone is very good at bluffing or has other advanced-level skills which enable them to win games with garbage cards, folding everything in the trash category is going to save the average player a very large number of chips. The big disadvantage to this, of course, is that I might have to fold almost everything for a whole week, which is really frustrating. Nevertheless, I have a zero tolerance attitude to trash and I apply it strictly. The other disadvantage is that, if I seem to be taking an interest in a hand, it means I “have something” and I might as well be playing with my cards face-up.
An equal opportunity player 
Jabr:
I completely agree with you regarding your philosophy of playing trash hands. I’m as big a “nit” as the next guy and know the advantages and disadvantages of playing that way. (I do try to “mix it up” a little, just to keep my opponents guessing…)
With that said, my question is more theoretical. Obviously with 72o you could hit 4/5/6, or 5/6/8, etc. and have 2.18 : 1 odds of hitting your straight by the river. This is why 72o beats 32o 56% of the time.
I will continue to fold trash hands like 72o and 32o, but my personal stand is that 32o is the worst poker hand.
Throw them both away !
Actually, you could have just used Pokerstove which gives 72o 65% to 35% for 32o. But as I said, unless I can just check to see a flop, I’m folding both of them. So to your point as to why 72o is considered the worst of the two, my thinking is that the 32o can make a straight. Other than that, I understand where you’re coming from. I’m not playing them, so it doesn’t matter in the long run for me.
I know it’s just me, but it’s more fun to write code. Next time I’ll check out Pokerstove…just for fun.
I have just played a free roll my last game. so what’s your problem your saying? ok its this I have KK and bet in 8th position ante 300 3 others also bet . Flop is K 10 6 all b4 me check (3 players) so I again bet ante 300 two fold the last player sat 2 after button goes all in I have highest trips on table at best he has trips at worse bluffing so I too go all in cards turn revealing my KK and his Q6o ( I am in 18th place with 7000 chips this guy has 10 000 and I am very close to dropping out of top 20 places and losing 24 players left ) Now this is where the fun starts as soon as I saw the 6 on the flop giving him a pair I knew I was doomed lol who do you think won and with what?..
Let me unfold the play 4 u Trips verses pair of 6s. Turn card a 6 lol I have f/h K over 6s He has 6s over K … Yeah u know don’t you ?
River card yes had to be replay special another 6.
Unable to equate numbers even I know that the odds of that ever happening must be what millions to 1 shot? is this site rigged . No I don’t think so just very bad luck on my part ( Either that or the dealer has it in 4 me since our divorce he was a bit too butch 4 my liking lol)
I found this on the StackExchange site: 72o being the lowest possible unconnected two cards the hand never gets the number of outs as even two smaller cards that are a little more connected.
Well, that’s an interesting way to look at it.
By the way, the web site I use to calculate the odds (if it’s not my software) is:
https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tools/odds-calculator/texas-holdem
I was happy to see it gave the same percentages that my program gave after my “brute force” method of just playing a ton of hands.
Players | 3-2o | 7-2o | Worst Hand
---------|------|------|------------
3 | 17.7 | 18.7 | 32o
4 | 12.7 | 13.1 | 32o
5 | 10.8 | 9.7 | 72o
6 | 8.1 | 7.1 | 72o
Fascinating! I didn’t think to check with more than two players. Looks like I have more study ahead.
(I’ll still fold them…)
And, by the way, I realize this discussion is off topic for this thread. I hope that’s OK…
No, we’re good. I never quite understood it either. Heads up the highest card is good, though. Like I said, unless I can check with them, I never play those hands.
Why is 72 regarded as the worse two cards to be dealt in poker? at least you can manage a str8 with 72 or even a flush if suited but to me 29 is a disaster apart from the obvious hands to be made there is no straight between the two a flush if suited ? and the same hands as any other two cards dealt except no str8
There’s no straight with 72.
?? Sure there is. Pretty rare - but the chance is not zero.
You don’t need but one or the other card to make a straight. Same can be said with 92o. 72o can give you a 6 card straight, but we only use 5 cards when making a straight.
Well, duh to me. I wasn’t thinking correctly there - no straight using 7 and 2 together. Ah hell - weekend is almost here - can start drinking in earnest.
But hey - this 6 card straight - maybe we should look into making that a thing.
LOL