Does this ever happen?

I gave you the odds which you refused to believe. I never have a bad day.

I been here about 13 months and i hit EVERY great hand possible in my first 6 weeks (look at my achievements lol) and i see SOOOOO many great hands here that that is very hard to get at cash games etc. It is common sense, if u play here u will see it

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I agree 10000% Bill. You will get them all in a short period of time or at least see them at your table.

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I wish I could understand why it’s coded this way, it sure takes away from playing poker.
To hit two straight flushes and a quads in the same tourney within an hour or so?
To see quads over quads, of course bigger stack caught his at the river?
App will not be taken seriously until some randomness is added.

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That’s video poker for ya !

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You did not take care to understand my question exactly though. I can go through once more, and slowly.

Let us say that some crazy guy goes to the card room to play NLH, with the explicit goal to hit a Royal with as high probability as possible.

Yes, I know that this does not happen in reality. But the simplifying assumptions make it possible to get an exact answer. And actually, this is not so much different from what you see on Replay in the 1/2 and 2/4 ring games, and maybe higher as well.

My point is that however he plays, the odds can never be better than 1 in 30,940, under the added assumption that there is no foul deck, the dealer is not a mechanic, etc.

Now if a Royal happens on Replay as often as 1 in 25,000 hands in the long run, say, that would be very extreme, and practically proves without a doubt that something is ‘rigged’. It means that it happens more often than you can even force it to happen by playing optimally.

That is why I ask for somebody to speak out as to whether this may be the case. I have almost 300k games on Replay, and I had 9 Royals altogether, which makes a ratio of 1 in 33k. So it would not be myself who could speak to anything happening out of the order. But maybe you have also played 300k
games and you hit 20 Royals, that might be getting suspicious.

The optimal strategy to hit as many Royals as you can means that you can never fold pre-flop, since the board might make a Royal. Your VPIP must be 100%. When you say that the odds are 3 times less in a casino, that would maybe be similar to the fact that the VPIP of an average player is not 100%, but probably closer to 33%.

I agree with Bill’s observations. I hit almost all my Royals at the beginning of my career on Replay. But followed by a long draught. Until just the other day I hit two on the same day. It tickled my interest.

I don’t know if you can understand. Please ask if you want clarification. But please cut down on insults and attempts of belittlement. They make you look like just another troll.

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And why the constant attempts at insults though? If you do not understand, you can ask questions.

I can’t dumb it down more than it I did for you to understand the numbers and logic you posted.

This is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard. The optimal strategy is to win with the hand your dealt, not trying to hit a royal by staying in every hand.

Something you should try to increase your chip count here after all these years.

When you start playing live poker and look at the stats you can engage a discussion with me, other than that I’m all done with you. The numbers don’t lie.

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Well, as I said, if you do not even understand how it optimizes your chances of a Royal to not ever folding pre-flop, then you should ask why that is true. In place of your constant insults. Once more: if you fold any hand pre-flop, you lose your chance of hitting the Royal which might appear on the board at showdown. Why is that such a difficult concept for you to understand?
Yes, I make long posts. But that is entirely on you. You seem unable to understand a simple question asked in simple words. The alternative is to expound into a lengthy version in tiny steps. To make you finally understand, I may have to write an entire book.

I have reported your obvious trolling behavior to the moderators, as a service to the community.

This could be an interesting discussion, so please can you keep it that way and remember the question is “Does this ever happen”
Thank you

I am delighted that there is moderation in place. Thank you for your efforts to keep it clean and civilized!

That’s our Craig…hehe :slight_smile:
I just really love your replies. They make me smile. Keep the good advice coming my friend!!

~mark :slight_smile:

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Thanks big, appreciate it!

I will stay away from the forum in the future though. I have no
further interest in engaging with trolls and general toxicity like that.

Sorry to see you leave. I hope you’ll come back in the future. Your opinions always have a place here. Thanks for sharing them.

Keep Smiling!!

~mark :slight_smile:

It might maximize your chances of hitting a Royal Flush, but you’d lose so frequently that you’d go broke in a hurry, thereby limiting your future opportunities of winning anything.

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Then maybe just for you :wink:.

Absolutely! It is also why I keep making of point of the fact that it would be a very silly strategy to follow.

But you also have to be aware that there are people out there, usually not much restricted by any lack of cash, who like to make ‘prop bets’, that is, sometimes silly bets involving one of the parts having to satisfy some requirements. Like in one recent case there was a $1M bet between Bill Perkins and Doug Polk whether Doug could get to a specified body/fat index within a set time of a half or a full year.

Then you only have to imagine that you have a similar bet going, and it does not have to be for $1M, but let us say that it is still substantial, on whether you can hit 5 royals during the time of the following six months. Then that is the situation when you might be interested in the perfect strategy for hitting royals as often as possible.

Back to the original question, I have never seen a Royal Flush to win a tournament before (granted my sample size for being heads up for the win is not exactly huge), but just recently I did see a few videos of Phil Hellmuth catching a Straight Flush to win at the US Poker Open this year. Either way it must be quite a rush to win a tournament like that, Nice job :slight_smile:

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I have never seen a Royal Flush win a tournament in my over 40 years of playing. If anyone sees one here or pro tournament please post it.

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