Thanks
One thing thatās interesting to me about my statistics is that:
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I have folded 63% of my starting hands. (I believe that means preflop folds only, as itās borne out by my Flops seen (91033/205103 = 44.38%).
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So, some further number of hands Iāve folded on the flop, turn, or river, and Iām not sure what that number is.
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Iāve won 25% of all hands played ( 50669/205103 = 25%.)
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100% of total hands - 63% folded preflop - 25% pots won = 12% pots lost somewhere between flop and river.
It would be very useful to know the number of showdowns Iāve lost, but I donāt think itās possible to derive that with the information provided on the Statistics page.
| Raw numbers | Percentages |
|---|---|
| 205103 hands played | 100% |
| - 128807 hands folded preflop | 62.8% |
| - 23597 hands won at showdown | 11.5% |
| - 27072 hands won without showdown | 13.2% |
| ??? hands folded at flop | ??% |
| ??? hands folded at turn | ??% |
| ??? hands folded at river | ??% |
| ??? hands lost at showdown | ??% |
So that means that some 25627 hands Iāve lost, somewhere between flop and river.
I would really like to know how much I fold at each street, and how many hands I lose at showdown. This could potentially help me know whether Iām over-folding or over-calling.
So I donāt really know: is folding on the flop or turn saving me money by getting me out of hands I canāt win without putting more chips in? Or is it costing me money by removing my equity from hands before I have a chance to hit a draw or make top pair?
I know itās a little of both, but whatās the proportion, and how far from optimal is it?
I know that both scenarios happen, because I see both happen regularly, but I donāt have a clear picture of the relative proportions of each. Nor do I really know what the ideal blend is for playing well.
I typically check-fold when I miss flops, but will sometimes check-call when I have a draw, and sometimes Iāll be a draw. In late position I sometimes bluff with air on a flop when no interest is shown by the players ahead of me, particularly if the flop is pretty dry and/or if thereās only one player in the hand.
I do this less than I used to; at lower stakes/skill levels, it seemed to work often enough to be +EV, even multi-way, but as I moved up in stakes, I got called or check-raised often enough that it stopped being so profitable. Winning the smallish pots at flop, particularly with limped flops, wasnāt outweighing losing the larger pots that resolved on the Turn or River.
But I have to wonder whether my balance of check-fold, check-call, check-raise, and c-bet bluff is where it should be; I suspect this an area where my game likely has a lot of room for improvement.
In theory I could shrink the % of hands lost without showdown (ie, hands where I folded before the showdown) by bluffing flop and turn more, but over-bluffing seems like an expensive way to lose more showdowns, and thus rather ineffective way to improve my overall pots won % through bloating the āwon without showdown %ā.
Another helpful statistic to know would be how many hands I have lost at showdown, after betting or raising the river.
In theory, it is best to lose a showdown as cheaply as possible, ie, you check the river, V checks the river, you lose, oh well. But a certain number of those hands should be winnable with a river bluff. And a certain number of river bluffs will be called, leading to losing a bigger pot than otherwise. So thereās a theoretical optimum amount and frequency to bluff on the river that would maximize overall profit.
I donāt think that having these statistics would necessarily tell me what the optimum numbers are, but they would help me to know whether and how much I am unbalanced in toward over-folding, over-calling or over-bluffing.