Bad Beats

Got dude dominated on turn, push allin with top 2, only to lose on river to 3 outs…,been happening to me for past two years roughly 80-90% of time in this situation. There is no way this is random as claimed….it’s most definitely rigged or planned for maximum drama……it does not make one feel good about the site

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I think the current algorithm is flawed not rigged. I can’t see how it could possibly be programmed to be rigged.

First hand of a Step One to a Million SnG.
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/1172655422
One of the most shocking that I’ve seen

Slow play leads to losses HERE!

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Step to a million promotion October 2024.
Full of bad beats so far. The two most standout are my AA v T8 offsuit and my AA v JT offsuit
Both clowns called my all in and both clowns flop a straight and then do not even say a word.
Pathetic.

@Rabbit230
Can you share the hand numbers please. I looked but couldn’t find them

I’ve no idea what the hand numbers are. Does it matter?
I go all in with AA and some muppet calls me on T8 off…
I’ve a decent chip stack and they have about the same as me…
what more do you need to see?

You tell me? at the after the turn the odds were 63.6% in my favor vs. 36.4% opponent. almost 2 to 1 – 1.75% in my favor… YET REPLAY DECIDES TO DEAL A TRIP JACK ON THE RIVER TO SCREW ME… ridiculous. absolutely ridiculous. Frankly happens way to often on this site — poker odds and real probability and statistics escape the minds of replay here. They always favor the fantastic…

2 to 1 isn’t even a bad beat. Post this in any real $ poker forum complaining about bad variance and they will laugh you out the door.

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Unless you were on the BB, and it was limped to you, and u checked it preflop, and had no choice but to play it. You should have folded preflop, or on the flop if JJ bet big enough into you on the flop.

You got very lucky on the turn, so the bad river luck equalizes out your very good luck. Either fold those crap hands or play them more carefully and you wont get bad beat as often.

That’s what a coach of mine said a lot.

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lol…. what are the odds of hitting one card on the river that you need ? there are 4 jacks, he has two replay dealt an unbelievable hand to this guy - pull your head out and look at the board i had two pair already…… keep buying play money you have zillions in FAKE chips pal get a life… play real poker……

i was playing for a low hand miss — he bet big … i hit on the flop - he was lucky to have a pair under…… that’s what saved him - it’s harder to hit a pair after the turn if you miss the flop…. all around he was extremely lucky and rude i might add - he immediately left like the dog he is - pros do do that …… BUT this is wantabee poker - i practice here …. replay needs to adjust their dealing to REAL POKER STATiSTICS …. not fantasy flush and trip city suck outs…. just sayin pal……

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Not 36% percent, that’s for sure, but then there’s also three 8’s and three 6’s that give him a better two pair. He still only has about an 18% chance of winning, but that’s about the same odds that you have pre-flop and on the flop.
I agree villain could have been more appreciative of you donating chips by whaling it off with 52, but really, I only see one person being rude here.

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the strategy was playing a low hand against a high hand miss so pre flop and flop typical strategy is moot given the tactics. Again he was lucky he had a pair under. typically drawing a high hand ( A, K,) —he missed i hit my 5’s …. and the the 2 on the turn are an easy win against a draw hand …. suggest you miss a flop a and try hitting with drawing only two cards…… to make a pair i beat you most of the time - unless it’s replay LOL …… regarding the rude one the “wantabee” with a zillion chips speak for themselves…… ridiculous —— kinda like monopoly when you control the bank very lame way to play ……and the fact that he hit a trip jack further supports how utterly ridiculous this hand is there were ONLY TWO LEFT in The deck you figure the oods pal.

This is not a “strategy”

to make a pair i beat you most of the time - unless it’s replay LOL

You will win most of the time here, too. This is one of the times you did not.

you figure the oods pal.

Why bother? It’s clear you don’t believe in probability, but rather have a kind of religious faith that your made hands will never be outdrawn.

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that’s funny…. the odds of hitting a pair AFTER the flop are 32%…… i’ll take that bet pal. reality check: i have two pair at the turn he has one pair he is DRAWING on the river …… replay deals ONE of the only 2 jacks remaining to give this opponent a trip…… run it at home tell me how many times the crap happens …. it’s an anomile replay loves the absurd…… absolutely ridiculous and many well known professional poker players play percentages like the one here i site … suggest you get out of fantasy land and read doyle brunsons super system STILL valid on all poker games and how to play winning poker… your funny pal

You were not playing for a low miss, as there is no hi lo hold em, as that’s a omaha hi lo thing, and you werent playing omaha hi lo, and was playing NL Hold Em.

2nd you really had no business call a GIANT raise preflop with 52. You were BUTLUCKY that you did not get it in bad on the flop, and BUTLUCKY that you BUTLUCKED the turn.

So its really your fault that you got bad beat, as 97% of the time you call GIANT raise preflop with 52, and your going to lose a lot USUALLY. You were playing BINGO poker, and you butlucked BINGOED and then rightly had it backfire on you.

So the reason you got bad beat is because of your bad play.

If I had played like that, and if I had then got bad beat, and then if I then complained to the coach I had, My coach would have told me, that’s what you get for playing JUNK, not folding Any 2 card JUNK preflop.

Now you can continue making excuses, blaming the other guy, instead of yourself, and continue being a rude DONK, or you can take responsibility for your bad play, change, improve, be nicer, etc, and win more, get along better, etc.

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Yes, he was very lucky, but to call it a bad beat or a suckout you either have to have a monster beat by another monster (boat beats flush) or Villain has to hit runner runner or Villain has to play the hand poorly and still win, or Villain has to be short stack desperate any 2 cards and hit. We only have a final screen shot and cannot see how the streets were played so it is difficult to say but it is not difficult to defend the strategy of taking an overpair to the river on a damp board. Whether he played it poorly depends on the betting.

Obviously he was all-in (his stack was the same as the pot) and you had him covered by over 50k. You also had position on him. If he was check-calling you then you would have a case for him playing poorly calling large out of position, but if he was betting into you with any decent sizing then you played 52s VERY poorly, sorry.

I agree with the above that 52 is a fold pre even suited but of course you can always mix one in in a blue moon against your tight image (if you have a tight enough image) to hit a trap. THAT can be a smart play. If that is what you did here, fine, but if you like to often play any 2 suited napkins then that’s your error. You should remove that from your standard opening or limp range.

Flop, you have back door hearts and bottom pair. You are in position and should be folding to any sizeable bet here. You do have an ok stack advantage so if you think you can afford to call small with your backdoor equity, that’s up to you. On the other hand, if he check-called you then he would be a bit fishy, but if you called him with bottom pair bdf, you are the bigger fish, sorry. I don’t know how big the pot was on flop but obviously there was a big bet somewhere because he’s all-in by the end.

Yes, he was very lucky to hit that river, but it’s probably better than 50/50 (off the top of my head) that he is ahead on the turn with JJ. He beats A8, A6, A5, A2, TT, 99. You could also be drawing with 97 or … any 2 hearts. ; ) He’s ahead of all of that stuff here (barring 2 pair with the hearts) and he wants a draw to call because it’s 80-ish% in his favor. The real fear for him is QQ, KK, AA, or maybe a set, but if he knows that you are playing this loose, that is a small(ish) part of your range. I can’t really say that he played it poorly by that screenshot.

I can’t range him because I can’t see the street betting. How was the pre-flop? 4-seats, you are UtG and he is BB.

You were first to act. Did you limp-call his 4x with your junk hand? If so, you are the fish.

If he closed your limp, he is the fish throwing away value with his beautiful cards and inviting you to suck him out. If you opened 3x, 4x, 5x and he called, well he played it right, your junk got called by prime. It happens. Your flop is now a check-fold. It’s poker, no big whoop.

On the rest of the streets he is first to act. Did he bet into you or did he check-call? It makes a big difference. Was this 2 checked streets and then he bombed the river when he hit and you called? Then you probably both could have played it better.

Was this all-in pre? Then you are definitely the fish, sorry.

Was this all-in on the flop? Then you are still definitely the fish, sorry.

Was this all-in on the turn? JJ calling that is not a bad play. He’s probably ahead of you most of the time.

Was this all-in on the river? Then of course he’s calling you. He only loses to 97, 74, 43. He also has a BETTER 2-pair if the board pairs so he has more than 2 outs. Even knowing that you have 52 he has 8 outs here. 36% and 2 outs does not compute. 2 outs is like 4ish%. Your math is faulty.

Of course I have the benefit of poring over this screenshot for 15-20 minutes to see as much as I can. When you have 15 seconds to make your action it is difficult, absolutely.

In comparison, here’s a JJ hand that I had and got bad beat yesterday. I don’t have the link because it goes too far back. Anyways, here’s how it went.

UtG jams for 1200ish chips (I don’t remember the blinds) but was probably still only 30/60, certainly no more than 50/100. +1 folds. I have JJ at +2. My stack is about 3500ish, so I have him covered almost 3 times). Now most people flat call here without thinking, but I am aware of potential callers behind and a couple of them have me covered (one of them over 9k). I don’t want to whiff JJ and end up having to bet the later streets out-of-position so to isolate the UtG I shove it to force anyone else to fold or showdown with me. I’m in charge here dammit! That’s right. A couple of folds and there is 1 call also all-in for like 1100 (either BT or CO can’t remember). SB folds and BB calls everyone. He has about 4200, or less than 1000 behind. So I didn’t get the iso that I wanted but at least there will be no more action and no one can bluff. Oh well, it’s poker.

Up and over.
UtG has A-rag
BT has 97di (don’t mean to be rude but absolutely bonkers stupid call, sorry/not sorry)
BB has A9ht

I’m actually ahead of everyone here with JJ but a couple of Aces do make me nervous. Let’s analyze the play so far.

A-rag (offsuit) UtG is not a smart jam if you ask me. If you are going to shove a marginal hand pre, at least wait for the blinds to see the action before you decide. UtG you fold the hell out of that, it’s just one more hand until the BB and act last. Prime only UtG.

97s I don’t care how late his position is. Post-flop position means nothing all-in (that’s why the blinds are better for shoving pre). 2 people before who BOTH have him outstacked are willing to showdown and he calls with 97?? Whatever he’s smoking I would like some please. Think about it. 97 is a very meh hand. 97s is 3% better than a very meh hand and he is willing to stack off and showdown with it?? Is he mental?? Does he hate money?? I have some shares in a ski resort in the Libyan Sahara I’d like to sell him.

A9s is an interesting one. Heads-up I’m okay with this call, could go either way, but 4 handed?? SOMEBODY here has TT and up. Come on. In fact if he has us all outstacked 3 or 4 to 1, I would not criticize at all, but I have like 80% of his stack. If he loses he’s down to 10-ish bb (this is a tournament btw). He’s calling all of us with an unconnected A. TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA, AK, AQ, AJ and even AT are ALL in all of our ranges. In fact 99 88 and 77 should also make him worry a little, especially 99 because it takes 3 outs away from him.

So how did it go?

Flop 9x7 ~ I’m screwed already by the dumbest player at the table, but there are 2 hearts so BB is still alive.
Flop is a heart ~ BB wins with a very questionable play if I may say so.
River bricks.

I get felted with the best hand, losing to TWO players who played the hand worse than I did even though no A hit the board!! And even if hearts did not come in, dumb fish calling with 97 still sucks the s**t outta me and laughs.

Now THAT is a bad bad beat as far as I’m concerned. If someone disagrees, please do tell me. Really. I want to learn.

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Did he taunt you after the hand? If the answer is no, then he is not rude. He won your chips, fair and square and then he had to get ready for work, or he had to go pick up his kid from the sitter, or he had to take the dog out for a pee.

And he did not have an underpair. He had an overpair.

If Replay is rigged, then you shouldn’t be practicing here because it will not simulate properly and you will pick up bad habits.

However, Replay is not rigged. It has no incentive to rig the game in favor of fish. Good players never have to reload or buy chips, even if they are getting sucked out more than their share. Bad players are the ones who have to buy chips. If anything Replay has an incentive to make bad players lose even MORE chips so they will buy more often, but Replay is never EVER accused of rigging in favor of better players, only in favor of worse players. Replay loses money if it rigs free chips to players who are more likely to buy. The folks accusing Replay of rigging are probably the worse players. ; )

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doyle brunson would beg to differ and has made MILLIONS in real money pal and who are you??? …. clueless??? that’s who. read the book learn the game and grow some kahonas.