Certain players not to be named here: “See? How am I supposed to win a tournament with all these DONKS chasing draws with terrible odds?”
Me: “Man, I love these tournaments! He got all the money in with 27% equity!”
Certain players not to be named here: “See? How am I supposed to win a tournament with all these DONKS chasing draws with terrible odds?”
Me: “Man, I love these tournaments! He got all the money in with 27% equity!”
Yeah your right. Sounds like something I would vent about in frustration in the heat of the moment, lol.
Also a lot of those that complain, don’t play it right.
They go all in on flop, and even tho it might seem good, because draw might call, its bad because A. Even the draws might call on 43% to win, which is EXTREMELY HIGH VARIANCE, and extremely too greedy, etc, as its better to bet smaller on flop, then depending on turn bet bigger on turn because that 43% becomes just a bad 21.5% on turn if their draw doesn’t hit going from flop to turn. B. If you bet too big you will probably fail to extract value. C. Often times if they don’t have a draw, etc, and if have good hand, if they call or reraise your big raise, they can have you beat.
They either slowplay, min bet, minreraise, bet too small on the turn, or flat call if somebody else raises, and let the draw get there for free or cheap, and then wrongfully complain, when it was their misplay that caused them to get beat by the draw, and lose some to a semi lot to draw.
Without draw chasers it would be harder to win without them, as annoying as they are sometimes,
One either adapts to them by betting about 3/5, 2/3rds, 3/4 pot, pot, 1.5 x pot, on flop and then betting pot, 1.5 x pot, double, tripple pot, semi big, to big, to bigger, to very big on turn, thereby winning a good sized lesser varianced, lesser pot on turn, river, or they don’t adapt and either have more variance, or lose more because they misplay it.
And also losing some of the time to draws is just part of poker, semi frustrating it can be at times.
But over the long term if play right against draw chasers, will win more then lose against draw chasers, and that amount will be even more if play right, limit variance, and dont make too greedy high varianced plays.