The play in that hand is just atrocious, limping all around (limping with AKs is a cardinal sin), and then the min raise, as if that ever accomplished anything… Then the guy with the nut flush bets virtually nothing on the river, and then the guy with the straight flush shoves, which is going to get folds from anybody not holding the A of spades (which it looks like nobody is, given how passively the hand played out).
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I guess Joe, even tho I see some wierd plays… in general, long term…
The best games are the regionals, just less ppl playing stupid poker…
but when u play below ur level, or have the table stack’d, you can make some wierd plays
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This is what I see, over and over and over again from watching the play here while doing other things. It seems like people are mistaking pre-flop activity for simply anteing up if they like their 2 cards. They mistakenly believe that seeing flops on the cheap is the “tighter” way to play poker when in fact it is likely the loosest and most expensive.
I am playing like absolute garbage so I cant throw too many stones here but I don’t think it can be argued against that a solid pre-flop strategy is essential to playing winning poker over the long term. Not only will you get value for your hands but you will also be less likely to be in horrible situations like the ones shown here.
Also, in that nut vs straight flush hand, what the heck happened with the turn? I mean checked around - Just why?
In the hand you played, I assume he had you on a flush draw only. I cant think of another reason to try and push you off that pot so hard. Probably had you on Axd. Still, pretty bad. The guy is climbing up in chips rapidly but looks to be a bit over aggressive and cant keep this ascent up forever playing that way.
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BRUTAL!
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Joe,
Iono … while I learned Hold’em online I soon could and did play the bar scene, for prizes …
Low level real $$$ (online) seem’d not much different than free chip poker… I have always seen this mentality of crappy play… It stems I think from the fact that ppl play both below and above thier level, when the 2 clash… normal poker , just isn’t… its 1 of the main reasons I play the BB 500 B&R the way I do…
Even I find myself doing it subconciously, if I drop a few levels… If I take a break from playing lets say 5k/10k , and drop to 200/400 or even 500/1k , as long as I still have the Broll for prolly 10k/20k if I wanted to… that lower table, just brings out stupid play… mainly cause what you lose is basically meaningless… Thats why ppl like Unranked, can jump into a 20k/40k table and just cause Havok. Or for that matter, me play the 500 B&R the way I do…
Yet another reason to play MTT/SnG, mostly you eliminate that, but… you still know there’s ppl that could fart the entry fee… but amazingly enough, the Regionals work … and where I was… @ 5.5m ( not now ) even I could fart 15k, but the play was just different, even @ low stakes… Hell the 50k are easier than the Regional 15ks are…
Sarah,
Yeah, that was brutal. You played it well, nobody’s getting away from that one. Sick runout, nothing you could do about it. Just ouch.
Its all good SPG, if I play every hand as well as I tried to play that 1, I’m fine…
We all just know, it never works out that way… does it… hahahahahahahaaha
I think it works out that way long term, which is how ya gotta look at it.
You win outright roughly 87% of the time there, chop with the gutshot around 12%, and the other point is probably split between a 4 way chop (7-8 runout) and losing. So the average is somewhere around 900K every time you get in that situation.
Keep the faith, you’ll get it back. 
hahahaha, I kinda meant, as long as I don’t beat my self , and play the cards the way they shud be played… long term the variance goes away and the odds swing in my favor. None of us can stop a bad beat, we can only mimimize the chances of it happenening, or minimize being in that situation in the 1st place… can’t win’em all, noone can.
I found a surefire way of avoiding bad beats in ring games.
I haven’t played ring in over 4 months.
BAM, problem solved.
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I stopped ring games right after I joined - never made sense how people played.
When I first joined, I lucked onto a table with players who played thoughtfully and strategically. Their games were always around 5:00 p.m. for me (PST), although they joined from a number of parts of the globe. Occasionally, if a regular arrived late, someone new would jump on and play thoughtlessly (polite word choice). The regulars would nudge that person to move on, or else the whole table (minus the unwelcome newby) would pack up and move to a new table and start again there. That makes ring games fun. However,I also like to sit down at a Bedrock table (only four players) from time to time where I get a quick sense of how people play. I’ve added friends from that context.
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