No, that only applies if casinos burn cards. The question now is if they didn’t, why would you not play there? You can’t mark or see the top card online, so that doesn’t apply.
It also doesn’t actually mimic casino play any more than not burning a card would, because it’s impossible to tell the difference.
Maybe putting it this way will get us further. If you knew Replay wasn’t burning cards, give me an example of how your strategy would change?
You don’t think to mimic a casino doesn’t apply to on-line playing?
Well, if they would show the burned cards on the table say under Board for example that would show a card was removed from the deck before each Street. I wouldn’t think that program modification would be that difficult especially to coders from the Settlement team. Afterall, I suspect they’ve already coded a self-correcting algorithm.
The cutting of the deck after the shuffle algorithm might be more difficult, IMO.
Well, it wouldn’t change my strategy because I don’t think they are burning cards now. As I showed above the outcome of the hands would change from what are seeing now and that would change my strategies.
ok, say I prove to you that they have been burning cards. You get to go back in time and play every hand again, but with no memory of those hands - what do you do differently?
Or maybe this tack is better:
I agree this produces a random shuffle too, but has any casino ever shuffled a deck of cards this way?
There are a lot of different ways to shuffle cards, even in casinos. The likely-hood you would get the same shuffle with each method is basically zero, but it doesn’t change the game at all as long as the shuffle is sufficiently random.
It’s the same with burning cards. Yes, effectively you get a different deck, but it’s no less random, and the game doesn’t change at all.
No, you don’t get it. This hand did not show any unacceptable behavior whatsoever.
On my action, there was still action pending. I had nuts (a boat) but still had opportunity to undersell my hand, which I am perfectly allowed to take - not against rules nor against etiquette AT ALL.
Villain’s action was different as it was the final action of the hand, and so could not possibly influence any other action, and so any acting or underselling would be pointless other than to taunt (slowroll), and so therefore would be deemed bad etiquette. He had what he thought was nuts (ace nut flush) and simply called promptly.
Both of us acted perfectly fine. The ‘rules’ of this etiquette have not changed in decades.
The bad etiquette going on here is actually YOU accusing anyone of scummy play when no scummy play occurred. Thankfully I really don’t care much about these sort of things but flinging these kinds of accusations at someone in a live game COULD get you kicked out or even injured, depending on who you accuse, how angry/drunk they are etc. At the very least it is a very bad way to make friends. So I would suggest that you refrain from doing so in the future.
Which is precisely what we do when we take the option to cut before we deal.
Doesn’t matter. If there is a 1% chance that he could fold, I have every right to undersell my hand.
You say ‘pretty sure’ which clearly means that you understand that he has a more than 1% chance of folding here.
Burning cards does not make the deck any more random than a proper shuffle alone. The reason that cards are burned in a live game is to prevent sleight of hand. In traditional card playing where there is no dealer (each player takes a turn dealing) it is very easy for a player with card trick skills to place a known card either at the top or the bottom of the deck but much more difficult to place a known card exactly 2nd or 5th in the deck, etc. So to prevent this, we simply burn the top card from the stub each time that cards are dealt. This is also why we have the option to cut before pitch. In online play, there is no sleight of hand to worry about, so burning cards does nothing.
I guess my use of the word mimic was incorrectly applied in my previous response. What you write is true but burning and cutting a deck would add a realism feel to playing on here with being in a casino.
I’m curious, you’ve posted and shown screenshots of you playing on an on-line money site.
Do they cut the deck and burn cards?
Thanks
Do you mean just having animations for burning cards? I’m not aware of any site that does that. I’m not aware of any site that animates the shuffle either.
I suspect most people would probably find animating either of those more irritating than entertaining in the long run, as it would slow the game down some.
No, based on the description above of how the shuffle is made, it said the deal was made from top to bottom. I would expect the burn cards to be in whatever sequence it happened to be.
Sounds like your answer to my question is, cutting and burning cards are not done on on-line sites. I remember watching a video where they were touting their ability to cut the cards before the deal. I can’t remember if burning cards was a part of the deal.
I honestly have no idea. Anyone who was touting that as some sort of positive for online is either clueless or assuming the audience is though. It’s trivial, but also completely pointless and just a waste of cpu.
As far as any of us knows, no online poker site uses burn cards. And so what? If they do, who cares? Realism schmealism. I mean, nothing wrong with a little atmosphere, but this isn’t a ride at disneyland. Watching burn cards for 200 hands in a MTT? Let’s get some hands in.
Burn cards are to deter sleight of hand in live games, nothing more. There is no sleight of hand with an online dealer, so burn cards here are a complete waste of time, code and server load.
I agree that this site is unfair. I’ve been beaten 7 times in a row on the river while holding the winning hand. I also got beaten all in with pocket A’s and the opponent went all in with 9,6, and the turn and the river were guess what YEP 9,6. now I understand this can happen but not as often as it does on this site. I think it punishes those who don’t purchase anything on the site.