course not that is just silly.
I really donāt know why a play money site would, but still there is a lot goes on and just makes you question is it really random or not.
here is another thing that goes on. I played a tourney got back to back A,Q. typical both times no aces or queens hit, next hand donāt know what I was dealt, but on flop was A and Q. on flop. this happens to me quit a bit, it just seems like program is taunting you in some way. same with straight and flush draws. I can sit and chase all day long, but the second I fold then I would hit. I guess I would say its like its playing mind games with me. then it becomes dang if I do and dang if I donāt .
@wildpokerdude, that last bit made me laugh! Thank you, I needed it!
I have hours of play sometimes where the only hands I āwinā are the hands that I folded. Iāll fold 7-2o and out will come a full house while everyone else is pushing their stacks in with just a pair! Like you, I just look at it and start seriously asking myself what would happen if started playing 7-2o regularly!
I actually had a bad run of this that lasted at least a fortnight - Iād lose nearly every hand I played and folded an awful lot of winners!
The only thing that saves me, and you if you choose, is discipline. Keep playing the hands you play and keep folding the losers. Donāt worry about the hands you fold - you will fold a lot of winners and itās going to hurt because thereās no winning upside to the hands you do play. There is nothing that you can do about it! I even resorted to animal sacrifice (burning my dinner actually lol) and that didnāt help me and wonāt help you.
If you are playing an appropriate range and folding everything else then you are doing better than many or most of the players on this site.
Regards,
TA
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lol welcome. a lot of times I can laugh these things off, but then it gets to a point that its no longer can laugh it off. just need vent sometimes.
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Best advice that I read (probably here) was: āIf these cards werenāt suited, would I play them?ā
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I attribute my success on here to studying the Replay algorithims that show me what the flop is going to beā¦
played a ring table. 50 hands
no pocket pairs
would had hit two fullhouses, lost to higher ones.
would had flopped a straight, lost to flush.
2,8 hears would ha giving me flush, but then would had play dumb with all raising.
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Take my screen name off the looserās list. I have been playing for many years on this site. Today I played over 35 hands 1 winning hand to get a straight or flush I have to fold. Comāon guyās give Bo49 a chance.
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I started thinking something doesnāt seem correct ever since the new format started. I was playing in two separate tourneys one day and noticed that quads came up three or four times which seems a little too frequently for randomness. Also, noticed losing a number of hands by a better hand with a set, straight flush and full houses etc.
I know this sounds like a case of just a bunch of bad beats but, the frequency has me wondering if anyone has checked randomness. And,i t seems to have started after the start of the new format.
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The main reason I lose with AA or KK is neither of the two cards match the 4 of a suit that just hit the board, and i have to fold them. (really fun when you hit the set)
Most of the increase of straights and flushes can be explained by the style of play that you see on replay, but the number of times the board goes 4 to a flush has little to do with how people play, and doesnāt match anything iāve seen watching live poker. I realize tournaments show hi-lights, but iāve watched lots of cash games in which every hand is televised. just doesnāt happen that much.
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I rarely lose with AA, & rarely fold AA either but will occasionally in situations where Iām most likely beat. I lose with KK a lot, though not recently so much. Feels like almost every time I get KK an A lands on the flop and villain often has Ace rags top pair. Very frustrating. Often when Im dealt AK I rarely flop either pair.
When I fist joined RP many years ago I was losing a lot to quads over 1-2 days and a lot of hours playing. Last night I saw quads 4 times in less than 3 hours.
I see a lot of crazy crap for periods on RP but overall for the long term like a week or month it feels pretty standard. You will see crazy stuff happen often in some live games too.
To realistically know whether its fair & random etc you would need to collect a lot of data & hands played accurately, and compare it to actual probability & correct odds etc, not just say & speculate based on the idea āI watch live poker and what happens on RP doesnt match up.ā
Even if you watched an average of 2 hours per night live poker, unedited showing every hand for several weeks your interpretation of that significant sample of data isnāt reliable. You need to methodically record every hand played & data for both live & online and then compare the data for it to be worthwhile & meaningful.
I would be surprised if many players donāt occasionally question if online poker is āfairā or that they are more unlucky than everyone else.
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+Youāre right. I donāt keep precise records, and canāt really state anything with statistical accuracy. I, too, seem to run into hands that seem to come in a group, then donāt see for a while. However, the amount of times i see the board go 4 to a flush, definitely changes my game. I almost never slow play any hand. If Iām sitting on a big pair, flop a flush or straight, or even 2 pr, whoever is left in the hand is gonna have to pay dearly to seen a turn card. Of course, this comes back to bite me in the butt, now and then, but often is the difference of winning small, vs losing big.
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does anyone else get sick and tired of cards you need win come on table next hand?
example AQ course I get no aces or Queens, next hand right on flop is 2 queens. this happens a lot. just seems like program is laughing at you. also last two tournaments I played and only gotten 1 pocket pair.
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Welcome to the forum, smooth99. Come back often and good luck at the tables.
my point with my last post is, it doesnāt seem that random. I can see it happening once in a blue moon, but when happens at a frequent rate, it doesnāt seem that random. just like to shed some light on this.
Playing strong hands strong is gives incentive for player to sometimes chase & get value from hitting. Iāve been the victim & predator in these scenarios. This will prob increase players trying to chase against you.
We have all seen these strange patterns in online poker. I dont over play suited cards, but when I do Im often frustrated that Im almost never flopping a flush draw, and very often flopping no back door draws. I call with hearts & no hearts on the flop, or all diamonds. OFC im swearing at RP. It happens to everyone. Villains seems to play garbage suited & crack my strong hands often with flush draws. OFC Im frustrated etc.
We often remember losing more often. Pointless crying over it. It happens to every1 at times.
I often see 3 to a suit on flop & wrong suit. Annoys me no end. I try not to worry about it too much or change my game detrimentally. Poker odds are the same online as live. Iāll adjust my game simply based on players, not the RP dealer.
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there are a lot of patterns. it gets so predictable. I canāt do nothing with KK because programs throws a Ace every time and any Ax gets played, if a Ace doesnāt hit, that means they got AA. I find it funny about the statement that program doesnāt know what cards players have, then how does it know I have KK and and Ace hits the board every time? same thing when your suited, how does it know to throw any suit, but the one you got? just like I was saying in the last two posts of mine, how does it know not give me any Aces or Queens, but next hand I donāt have A,Q and yet it Aces and or Queens hit the flop?
I wonder how it would be if REPLAY POKER would change the programs like once a month? as the saying goes, same crap different day. that way it might not be so predictable. I guess that is why I limp in so much with starting hands because 99.99% of time I have no clue what to do. yeah when I get KK, I would love to raise it up preflop, but I canāt because of what I said happens every time I get KK. same goes for any pocket pair. becaue I limped in I now let any two crap cards come in and play, if I had raise like I want to I can get them to fold, but I canāt raise.
all I know its beyond frustrating.
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If it was predictable then you would be killing it right? If its predictable then you could easily outplay & strategize to beat the system if it is indeed so predictable? Maybe you used the word predictable wrong?
Its frustrating for sure. I doubt even the best players would disagree about that on occasion.
Last night I played KK all in Vs AQ and lost to an A on flop or turn. When the situation is reversed this rarely happens to me where I will get lucky with a hand thats underdog but it seems to happen against me a lot. Its easy to remember getting unlucky and forget the opposite. Thing is I dont have data or proof to back this up, just a sad cry for self pity.
I can complain the system is rigged & replay is out to get me too, like some kind of conspiracy theorist. This kind of self pity & crying over losses: āboo hoo, its out to get me, life is so unfairā accomplishes nothing & proves nothing.
If your so confident the system is cheating you or in some way āpredictableā then provide meaningful data, statistics etc. Its similar to a detective having a hunch or gut feeling etc. It doesnt prove anything or is it evidence. It provides you a direction to investigate and gather evidence. Gather data and make a case. Another player is doing this ATM.
actually I do strategize to beat the system, but its hard to kill it when all game long I can only hit high card hands, pair or two pairs, which is obviously beat by whats on table. I just told you canāt do nothing with KK and Ace pops up every single time. lot times I flop a straight, but there is a flush draw and I dare not do anything cause someone is on the flush draw and going call anyway and course they get their flush. every time Iām suited, I know every time it gonna be. wrong suit. I have folded many pocket pairs because there always multiple pocket pairs and is usually higher than mine. I rarely play Ax because donāt give me aces or whatever my kicker is, but course next hand they can throw aces on flop. so why is it I can guess right majority of the time on here, but I take a real deck of cards and can never guess right?
I just got folded out by the program, after shoving 2pr Iād just flopped. I donāt know if i would have won, but was feeling ok about the hand. Afterward, I hinted iād like to know if i had the winning hand, but got no response from my opponent. the program tried to fold me on the turn, but iām spamming the button to sit back in, and managed to keep the hand alive. Then, it kept folding me on the river, every time i sat back in, got folded again. I lost a 10K pot (65 - 70 BB) with what i think was the winning hand, through no fault of my own, while beiing one of the tournament leaders
That tilts me. donāt care if i had the winning hand or not.
itās not the same concerning the way the cards fall. Iām way too lucky at times to get too upset because i got an unlucky river. It wasnāt any one hand, or incident, that was behind my comment that the board seemed to catch three or four of the same suit more than it should. I canāt remember what took me down that road, but something did, and I started checking odds and paying attention a few months ago.
I donāt think the staff is trying to screw me. Why would they? (free poker?) The only reason I can think of to alter the deal would maybe be to appeal to folks who donāt love poker for the sake of poker, but then you lose the members who do. Howeverā¦would not there be a means within the software to track hand results, and maintain some sort of guide lines to insure accurate randomness. I havenāt kept records, does anyone?
A flopped flush should happen about 1%. That means the flop must be one suit enough to make up for no one having a suited hand, or the wrong suit. Perhaps when i see that type of board several times in one game, or find myself with the second, or third best, flopped flush in the hand, thereās someone else with no such experiences because the odds wonāt permit it.
I am curious if policing software exists to insure the integrity of game odds, and what kind of sampling size it would need.
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