Yeah i get that now you mention it a bit obvious the more cards laid down the bigger the chance of your opponent getting the cards they want and yesa it does increase the variables i never looked at it like that before ty
The most difficult, but yet the best decision you can ever make, is to fold a good starting hand that has turned sour after the flop or turn!
Always remember that you might start out with AA, but when that flop opens the door for a straight or flush, fold âem.
Thatâs why I thoroughly believe in Kenny Rogersâ song âThe Gamblerâ -
âYouâve got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
And know when to runâ
Either shut the âfishâ out early by raising pre-flop with a proper raise and sometimes shove if you have âbullets, cowboys or ladiesâ.
My experience at the tables have been the same as yours by either suffering the same fate or seeing others suffering it, by allowing play (fish or limpers) to get to the river and getting beat by a straight or flush from ridiculous cards in the hands of fish/limpers.
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ya i deff agree with pugg on those 2 things however there is 1 other thing IMO that depending on the stakes/tables/players, etc.you are playing on and against is that because its a free poker site there are way more, i mean waaaay more players that will chase anything for ANY amount which is for the most part the opposite as in live for real money and often comes down to pure river luck by any chasers that dont value their chips like the more skilled players. The higher you go in stakes the less chasers for any amount type players will be on your table. So you basically have to go thru and grind your way up the stakes to realize and notice this. Keep up the good work tho, at least you are willing to learn and wanna get better, unlike many others on here.
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I found this site helpful. good for beginners.
tks to Fozman for the link
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makes sense never listen to Kenny Rodgers but i understand what your saying i guess only time and experience can tell you when to hold , fopld , or bet thank you
You mentioned a thread called âThe Links Libraryâ. I canât find it anywhere on this site, the Search function doesnât seem to work. Can you post or send me the link?
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Maxwell you need to type into your search engine search bar do that you will find what your looking for
@Maxall
Click on The Links Library in blue on SunPowerGuruâs post and it will take you there. Additionally you can click the magnifying glass (top right) and enter it in the search box and it will appear there.
i have seen WAY too many flushes (70-75%) be TILTED by a over k ,k over q and have asked why such an imbalance. It happens ,not just to me, but most others also. Also QUAD tilts happen more than normal. Lousy algorithm !
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Thank you cupcake
Can I borrow the hat you pulled these numbers from?
Are you claiming that the majority of people playing here have actually collected hard data, done a statistical analysis on the data, then shared the results with you? How else could you know this to be true?
Did you know that 72% of all Replay players are gingers, and that they lie 3/5ths of the time? I mean, if youâre going to make up fun âfacts,â at least try to make them amusing.
Egad.
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With My weak game there is some power in folding. I used to get bored at a Table of 9 and start calling to often-then stay in to far. Ugh⌠When I started playing 2+ games at a time I noticed I kept finishing in the Money at a better rate. I call when its promising and I fold with ease otherwise.
Less the algorithm, more the players. Since few people raise the blinds pre-flop, everyone plays their suited garbage. And because there is also very little aggression at the flop or turn, these same players are free to chase that runner-runner backdoor flush. So many hands go to showdown and so few players ever fold, itâs no wonder we see miracle 2% river suckouts so frequently. It happens to all of us.
As far as the rest of it, yeah, Iâve seen some crazy, nonsensical streaks of hands. Local maximums do occur, and my experience has been that these oddball things happen about 10x or so more than they should for about 24-48 hours.
We all know how rare Royal Flushes are, but they still happen here. Many of the strange phenomenon weâve all observed are actually more common than Royals. However, Iâve seen some of these same scenarios on a live table with people who play the same way the players here do. It would be much more suspicious to me if these crazy things did not happen here at Replay as they do in real life.
Does this mean there arenât problems? Not necessarily. I do find the very unusual patterns of maxima a bit strange, so there could be something in the seeding (i.e. initialization) of the pRNG at a new table. Thereâs also the particular way that the cards are selected via the pRNG and the ever present burn card issue. Either way, it affects all of us and itâs not entirely predictable either.
I felt the same way as you when I began seeing this stuff, but there is a lot to consider before coming to a conclusion. I invite you to look into it a bit deeper (plenty of topics here on the forums) and perhaps see that there is more to it than you initially thought.
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I know youâre probably taking about tournaments, but Iâve had some good experiences with 6-max and 4-max ring games. You might give that a shot if you donât want to play 2 MTTs for any reason.
The per hand profit is usually a little lower, but typically youâll see at least double the hands⌠especially on 4-max.
What I notice most is â3 to a flushâ, flops. I flopped 2 flushes in the same SnG, yesterday. One was folded pre-flop, the other, I had the nut. In addition to the ones i hit, seems I see a lot of hands in which Iâm suited, and the flop comes 3 to flush, but a different suit. Iâve seen this a lot lately, but who knows, maybe i donât see another for a couple of thousand hands, and itâs just odds being odds.
However, if i count the 2 which were folded before the flop, Iâve flopped a flush seven times in the last week, or so.
Monotone flops are about 18-to-1 or a little over 5% of the time. Actually flopping a flush is 118-to-1, or just under 1%.
https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tools/odds-and-outs
So, in the instances of maxima that Iâve seen, monotone flops showing up every 3 hands is certainly possible. Furthermore, if youâve played at least 700 hands in the last week, thereâs nothing abnormal about flopping 7 flushes. But 7 flopped flushes in say 70-100 hands⌠yeah⌠local maximum.
Yes I did mean the long march of a Tournament. Play Heads up a little bit. Havenât really given table of 4 much attention.
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Humans are predisposed to seeân patterns. We then try to rationalize these patterns, usually incorrectly ⌠Not sure its seeding, and hands are global so its not a single table issue. I look to what a shuffle is, and ur right the burn card issue.
I know of 4 patterns so far that are present, but you are sooo right about timid play. I think that stems from those who wonât fold to any bet. More ppl might bet when they should, if more ppl would just fold when they should. So its self perpetuating.
Now that I think I know about beats, things make more sense now. All you can do is adapt to your surroundings as best as you can.
Sassy
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This is why playing 2 or 3 tables at once actually helps my game. The only exception is when I get heads up, then I do better if Iâm only focusing on the one table.