In sports, the physical end of it is the most important part.
Take motor sports as an example. The cars, be it NASCAR or Formula 1 or whatever, are heavily restricted in horsepower, downforce allowed by the wings, and so on. The difference between winning and losing is in the physical inputs of the drivers much more than in the cars themselves. This dependence on physical inputs is what makes it a sport.
One could train to be able to move a pawn more efficiently, but that won’t make you a better chess player. Chess is a game, not a sport, because the physical aspects aren’t important to the outcome.
You can train to put your chips into a pot with a casual detachment, but physicality isn’t a part of poker. Yeah, it takes a certain amount of mental and physical endurance to play live tournaments, but poker is still primarily a mental game, not a sport.
Sports, from dart throwing to football to rock-climbing to skiing (and everything in between), do have mental components, but their dependence on the physical inputs is what makes them sports.
Hallo Leute, hallo oder was oder so oder was.? natürlich ist Poker ein Sport. Ohne Frage, da gibt es keine 2 Meinungen. Ich bin sehr tolerant, aber aus medizinischer Sicht ist es ganz klar. Die menschliche Physiologie des Körpers beantwortet die Frage. Während des Spiel variiert der Blutdruck der Puls, die Atmung, die Schweißabsonderung und andere Parameter. Alles messbar.! Wie bei einem Lügendetektor. Das Gehirn verbraucht 25% der vorhandenen Körperenergie. OK. bei vielen natürlich deutlich weniger,…Haha .Somit kann die Belastbarkeit, die sich u.a dadurch messen lässt, wie schnell der Körper wieder Normalwerte erreicht, bzw. schnell erschöpft ist, oder Entspannt, gemessen werden. Hierrunter leidet sozusagen die Kondition. Jeder Sportler (egal, ob Denksport, Billard, Golf, Schach, Skat, Domino, Leichtathletik u.a ) tuen gut daran körperlich fit zu sein. Aus bekannten Gründen. Fragt mal echte Profis, die sind alle Fit,…topfit. Bedenkt man das ein Turnier locker über 1 Stunde laufen kann.!! Dies ist eine große Belastung für den Körper und natürlich auch für den Geist. Emotionen, Gedanken sind hierfür auch maßgeblich,… denn die machen unsere Gefühle aus. Jeder kennt das, wie aufregend Poker sein kann. Nicht nur die eigenen Fehler sondern auch das manchmal unfassbare Glück der anderen ist dafür evident. Also ich hätte schon oftmals das Notebook in die Ecke schmeißen können. Habe ich natürlich nicht. In der Psychologie spricht man auch von Resilienz. Jeder der wirklich konzentriert semiprofessionell Poker spielt weiß wie erschöpft man nach einem Turnier ist. Man braucht Erholung, deshalb ist es ein Sport.
Viele Dank für das lesen,
habt alle einen schönen Tag und natürlich immer gute Karten, bis Baldrian
Einsteins-Bro
I hope Einsteins-Bro will forgive me for going to Google translate. So others can join this witty chat, here’s the English version (undoubtedly not nearly as good):
Hello guys, hello or what or something or what?
of course, poker is a sport. Without question, there are no 2 opinions. I am very tolerant, but from a medical point of view it is very clear. The human physiology of the body answers the question. During the game, blood pressure, pulse, breathing, sweating and other parameters vary. Everything measurable! Like a lie detector. The brain consumes 25% of the available body energy. OK. for many, of course, significantly less…Haha. Thus, the resilience, which can be measured, among other things, by how quickly the body returns to normal values, or is quickly exhausted, or relaxed, can be measured. The condition suffers from this, so to speak. Every athlete (whether mental sports, billiards, golf, chess, skate, dominoes, athletics, etc.) would do well to be physically fit. Known reasons. Just ask real professionals, they are all fit…top fit. Considering that a tournament can easily run for over 1 hour!! This is a great burden for the body and of course also for the mind. Emotions, thoughts are also decisive for this… because they make up our feelings. Everyone knows how exciting poker can be. Not only one’s own mistakes but also the sometimes unbelievable happiness of others is evident. So I could have often thrown the notebook in the corner. Of course I haven’t. In psychology one also speaks of resilience. Anyone who plays poker semi-professionally with real concentration knows how exhausted one is after a tournament. You need rest, that’s why it’s a sport.
Thank you for reading
have a nice day and of course always good cards, until Balderian.
Einsteins-Bro
i agree with you absolutey,… Poker is a sport. No questions. Only a few seem to understand that. A pitty. Therefore clarification is nescessary. Thank you for raising this topic. Cheer up, we are getting more and more and keep together. Nice greetings and good Hands. Look at my post…
Nope. If poker is a sport, what other “card sports” are sports? Is Baccarat a sport? How about Blackjack? Gin? Go Fish? Why would poker be any diffferent?
Pressure? Ever sit at a Baccarat table? The money at stake can be mind blowing.
Mental stress? Blackjack anyone? Y’know, counting cards is not illegal (and I guarantee you successful Blackjack players do just that) - just shall we say it’s a generally “frowned upon in this establishment” kind of thing. But it is done - and the mental stress in that endevour, not to mention the work it takes to truly master it, I would argue, rivals the mental aspect of poker (I did not say “exceeds” - I said “rivals”)
Poker is a game. A grand game. A complicated game. A simple game. A subtle game. A game where you likely never stop learning how to get better. A joyous game. A depressing game. A game that sometimes does not seem fair but in truth is exceedingly fair.
Robert Sapolsky, who studies stress in primates at Stanford University, says a chess player can burn up to 6,000 calories a day while playing in a tournament, three times what an average person consumes in a day. Based on breathing rates (which triple during competition), blood pressure (which elevates) and muscle contractions before, during and after major tournaments, Sapolsky suggests that grandmasters’ stress responses to chess are on par with what elite athletes experience.
“Grandmasters sustain elevated blood pressure for hours in the range found in competitive marathon runners,” Sapolsky says.
It all combines to produce an average weight loss of 2 pounds a day, or about 10-12 pounds over the course of a 10-day tournament in which each grandmaster might play five or six times. The effect can be off-putting to the players themselves, even if it’s expected. Caruana, whose base weight is 135 pounds, drops to 120 to 125 pounds. “Sometimes I’ve weighed myself after tournaments and I’ve seen the scale drop below 120,” he says, “and that’s when I get mildly scared.”
from https://boingboing.net/2021/08/20/chess-tournament-players-burn-up-to-6000-calories-a-day.html
Perhaps we could send a petition to the Olympic Games Committee to ask for poker to be included as part of the marathon?
Definition of marathon : “a long-lasting or difficult task or activity.”
The Olympics are for amateurs, not professionals
Although today many of the sportsmen have heavy sponsorship, the principle of fair play for the love of the sport still remains.
Remember the prize for winning is a gold medal, not a huge cash prize!
From 1986, the International Olympic Committee decided to make all professional athletes eligible for the Olympics, with the exceptions of boxing, and wrestling.
That’s not true either. Most sports do not have enough quality amateur athletes to play so the IOC lets them recruit professionals to have enough athletes to compete in a sport or they are not allowed.
While the International Olympic Committee itself don’t provide monetary rewards to Olympic medalists, some countries provide prize money to athletes for winning a medal in the Olympics.[1][2] Countries like Singapore and India, sports have heavy government involvement and athletes are given high monetary reward for winning an Olympic medal as a means to promote the growth of sporting culture in those countries.[3]
According to Forbes, Great Britain, New Zealand, Norway and Sweden don’t provide monetary incentives for their athletes winning an Olympic medal (as of the 2020 Summer Olympics).[4
The USA of course do pay their medal winning athletes, though I am not sure they need it to promote sporting culture…
