My AQ suited vs ATC shove all in 97% of time all in pre in online real money poker 8k GTD, $10 buy in, 777k, 70 bb stack, Villain had 988k, blinds 10k, bubble in 2 blind levels

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Hey Younguru, Lihuie, others.

This was at IGNITION real money online poker.

Villain shove ANY 2 CARDS all in preflop in all positions, including UTG, no matter what his stack size was from short stack to 150 bb stack, about 97% of time.

There was about a 93 to 95 to 97% chance that he had absolute garbage. If I called and win, I would have had 1.5 mil in chips, chip leader, 175 bb stack, with a HUGE edge over field, with about a 83% to 85% to 87% to 90% to 93% chance to finish top 5, final table, win first, 2nd, and win about $500 to $5000 to $200 bankroll

the buy in was $10(I was taking a semi shot), thats 1/20th of bankroll. $8000 GTD, About 500 players.

I had a 777k 70 bb stack. the money bubble was about 3 blinds levels away. blind levels were about 12 minute blind levels

I was on BB with AQ suited. Villain shoved all in with Any 2 cards, 97% of time garbage range, shove all in preflop 97% of time from all positions, at all stack sizes.

If I am looking to just make the money, its probably a fold. Heck even playing to win might be a fold considering my stack size, and my edge over the field.

But I think its + EV over the long term, if I am playing to win.

I was playing to win, so I called. I just couldnt fold to the DONK’s shove.

Donk miraculously had 99. It was a coinflip. I hit a A, and DONK hit his 9 for a set on the river

So was AQ suited a call or shove?

I think I played it right, and I am not focused on the result, or complaining.

But maybe I am wrong.

I would be interested in hearing your take on it Younguru, and why your take on it, etc.

I am taking the time to really think about this hand, and how I want to approach such situations in the future.

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shove

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If I have A-broadway on a 90% range maniac I am stacking off every time.

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Any ace for me, any double broadway, 55+

It’s not true they’re going to have garbage 97% of the time, but we don’t need the odds to be anywhere near that much in our favor either. Call/shove when it’s quite likely you’re ahead and be happy to just take whatever equity you have when you happen to run into a strong hand.

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Thanks all for replying with what you think. Lihiue Villain had quite literally SHOVED all in pre EVERY H. AND 97% of time. He only folded 1 time out of 43 hands quite literally. I think there was 1 and only 1 hand he was folding, and I am guessing it was, is exactly 72 offsuit. Everything else he is shoving as a Any 2 card range, about 97% of time from all positions. I called him before with KJ suited(he had 48 off), and doubled thru him.

There is no question about the calls as far as range vs range as my calling range was KT suited, KJ suited, KJ off, KQ off, suited, A8 suited to AK, 44 to AA, and Aq suited more then fits into that.

What I am more looking for: Younguru might say something like " You were very close to the money and had 777k 70 bb stack that was 4 times the average stack. If you had folded, you would still have had 2.5 times the average stack, and 49 bb stack, post bubble, in the money, ITM, and then could have easily busted him after the ICM bubble, ITM, and still been about a 117 bb, 3.5 times the average stack, stack with a extremely high skill edge chance to stil win that $500 to $5000, where you would have still been playing to win"

Now maybe he wouldnt say something like that. I’m not sure if I agree with that or not, and it would be a borderline call, fold from that perspective.

My thoughts perspective, is that I have a HUGE edge over most to almost all of that extremely soft field, and altho yes, I could fold, make the money, and still take him out after the money, and go on to a win, top 7, win $500 to $5000. I just thought I had such a extreme crushing range advantage with AQ suited, that I had a semi extreme high chance of not losing, and that that if I won, and I had a high probability of winning that I would have a significantly even better chance of winning it all, top 7, winning $1000 to $5000, etc, and that if I lost, got busted out, that I am good enough to win $1000 to $5000 in that tournament in the future.

So from a NON range vs range angle, where you do not consider range at all, would you still call, and why.

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I am sorry Bill I accidentally mistyped. I meant to say call or fold, not call or shove. I was on either the BB, or SB or button, and had AQ suited, and Villain shoved all in preflop on either the button, or Cutoff, and I called with AQ suited, and I am asking whether I should have called or folded

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Called every time, especially as u said he liked 2 play " any 2 cards " big time…I said shove as in small cash game Donks do it all the time so i just put them all on —they stop it or go broke usually.