Regarding MTT’s whereas the blinds go up every 8 minutes.
For the first session, that works out just fine.
What I find is after the break, soon after the second session has begun, the blinds reach a large amount to where it forces many of the remaining players into an all or nothing position, thus it kind of becomes a bingo-fest.
What I would suggest is in these tourneys, slow the blinds down to change every 12 minutes instead of 8. This would go a long ways into fixing this ‘‘problem’’.
Thanks for looking, have a nice day.
Sorry, left out changing the speed after the first session, starting with the 2nd session.
Hi TheNutts,
There is only one reason the blinds go up in tournaments:
To force action.
From Wikipedia:
The blinds exist because Omaha and Texas hold 'em are frequently played without antes, allowing a player to fold his hand without placing a bet. The blind bets introduce a regular cost to take part in the game, thus inducing a player to enter pots in an attempt to compensate for that expense.
In poker tournament play, blinds serve a dual purpose. In addition to the purpose explained above, blinds are also used to control how long the tournament will last. Before the tournament begins, the players will agree to a blinds structure, usually set by the tournament organizer. This structure defines how long each round is and how much the blinds increase per round. Typically, they are increased at a smooth rate of between 25% and 50% per round over the previous round. As the blinds increase, players need to increase their chip counts (or “stacks”) to stay in the game. The blinds will eventually consume all of a player’s stack if he or she does not play to win more.
From Roger.com:
Blinds create a scenario where players must act. Without blinds, poker could become a game of excessive caution, with players waiting for only the best hands.
From the help section here at Replay:
The reason that blinds are collected, particularly in tournaments, is so there is a starting pot for the players to compete for. In tournaments, the blinds increase in size in order to force players to keep up with the average stack as players are eliminated. If there were no blinds in poker games, the best strategy would be to fold everything except premium hands because it would be free to wait. The game simply would not be at all interesting or competitive.
One of the game dynamics which paying blinds introduces is that players in short-handed games and the final stages of a tournament have to fight to stay alive. Everybody has the same cost each time the blinds get to them. Stronger players will have the ability to cope with the disadvantages forced on them and exploit the forced bets made by others. The better players will try to capitalize on positional play and not waste chips by limping or calling passively.
What you are calling a “problem” is the reason for the blinds to go up in the first place.
Cheers!
It’s all good, I understand and about the blind structure.
I play holdem almost entirely. 100k is the cheapest I’ll play.
Just seems every tourney once past the first session becomes an all-in fest for most players remaining, looking for a way to avoid that so we can still play good poker later in the game. Good luck all, see you at the tables.
I’ve been playing here for many years.
It’s pretty much always the same playing MTT holdem tourneys, the blinds are too slow in the beginning and too fast later in the game, in my opinion.
Slowing down the blinds after the first break would be a way to ease this “problem”, lol in my opinion. Have a nice day!
I really appreciate your response das32343!
Since nobody else has responded yet, perhaps I’m in the minority of what I’m trying to say. Sometimes people interpret what I’m trying to say differently that what I’m actually trying to say…meet my wife, lol.
Anyway, anyone that’s played holdem or any other poker games for awhile understands the need for blinds, doubt many of us except for newbies need the rundown on why we have blinds.
What I’m trying to say is that the blinds are too steep later in tourney’s, thus it’s likely all or nothing for many of the remaining players. If the blinds were slowed, perhaps many could make an actual bet besides all in pre flop, thus we could still enjoy playing a good poker game. Not sure what else to say, it’s no big deal…just make sure you’re in the top 5 late in tourney’s, lol, or just go all in and hope
Hi @TheKnutts . Late to the party but agree with your premise.
Greater than 100BB starting stacks is unnecessary and blind levels could be extended if 5k starting stacks tourneys commenced with 25/50 blinds.
If we use the structure above as an example we could play 15 minute levels if we had 25/50, 50/100, 100/200 and 150/300 before the break and then the next 4 after. If the tournament continued past 2 breaks skip 600/1200 and then keep going.
Alternatively with 12 minute levels you could go 25/50, 75/150, then continue on as outlined and still reach the second break at the same time.