Bad Beats

This isn’t a bad beat but it’s certainly funky.

Pre-flop ~ Villain limps from MP. I overlimp a meh 98o from BT. Surprisingly we are heads-up.
Flop ~ OOF! 485-clubs! I am very aware at this point that it’s a limp pot so everything that hits this soaked board is in both of our ranges. At least I have (a weak) top pair and a 9 over for the top of a backdoor straight. Villain checks to me. I min bet to see what he might have. He calls.

Book on Villain: I don’t know this guy except that when he sat down at the start he was talking about how he was sucked out of his previous tournament, not angry-like or anything but may have been smarting and semi-tilty.

Turn ~ Kdi. This is another test card for me because there is a good chance that Villain is drawing. I think I made a mistake here but I’m not sure. Since he flat-called flop small, I don’t think he has it YET. So most likely he has one good club, like J and up. Of course he could also have 6x or 7x for gut. So he either has 4 or 9 outs (not both). Although in review I realize that there is a straight-flush draw in there too : 0 but I lose to that the same as straight so who cares. I min bet here because I want his draw to call and bust. If it comes in, oh well. I think that this is a mistake since there are two draws here, I should have sized up to bluff him off. He calls.

River ~ 7sp. Brings in 6x but I’m certain he does not have flush. At least if he flopped flush he has played it poorly. I bet, serious this time - a regular sized value bet. maybe I shouldn’t have because of the straight but the pot is so small I’m not too worried. If he flats, he probably has a K. If he has 6x, he raises. Villain snap calls.

Showdown ~ I was not surprised to lose, but I was shocked with what he had. KK! I get that he is passive on the first 2 streets. That flop is just gross for him. But he LIMPED KK from MP? For realz?

The irony of it all is that by playing pre-flop very poorly he actually made more money. If he would have opened 3x I would have folded and he would have only taken the blinds. Instead he gets 5 more bb out of me.

It was just a really weird funky hand.

So what’s this “Replay Flush”? Is it “I play bad and get angry when I lose so I’m going to accuse Replay Poker of being rigged”?

For puchis42, by the turn he’s just hoping the board doesn’t pair… because at that stage he knows he has the winning hand. The call of 100 is a great way to make you think he doesn’t have the winning hand. And it worked. You thought your 2-pair was good.

But did you read the board? It’s not just about “what hand do I have?” It’s also about “What’s the best possible hand with this board, and do I think an opponent might have it?”

On the flop, you had a very good hand (only hands beating you are 22, tt, KK). On the turn, you should be thinking “someone might have a flush, and it’s definitely not me.” Sure the call of 100 would make you think he didn’t have the flush, but that’s where you need to think strategy…is someone trying to make you think that they don’t have a good hand?
When I know I have a hand that can’t be beat, or that there is only a single card for the river that could make a hand that beats me, I often hide my hand by betting small. Then bet big on the river to make them think I’m bluffing.
Classic tactic, and I don’t count myself as a very experienced player.

Honestly, @LostHwy from what you’ve posted here, it paints the picture that you’re just not very good at reading the board.

Here you go: an example of trying to trick people into thinking I didn’t have a good hand when I flopped a full house.
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This is just from Wikipedia:

Bad beats online

In online poker rooms, bad beats often lead to accusations that the random number generator is “rigged”, even though such beats also occur in offline games. Many online poker rooms post statistical data to demonstrate the randomness of the hands generated.[1] In online poker games players have an opportunity to play in “bad beat” tables where the player who has the best losing hand receives an accumulated prize pool. An additional amount of rake is taken from each hand to fund the jackpot. The largest online jackpot to date was €1.25 million, hit in July 2011 with €443,000 going to the loser of the hand.[2]

Players are statistically more likely to experience bad beats online, since playing using a computer allows for more hands played per hour. Also, online players may play multiple cash game tables and/or tournaments at the same time, also increasing the frequency of hands dealt. Also, tells are rendered moot, so players are incapable of reading clues such as body language in aid of deriving the strength of an opponent’s hand. Finally, online poker games (especially freeroll tournaments) are far more accessible to the average player who, being average, is less likely to be knowledgeable regarding the techniques of the game, in turn making it more likely they will bet from the gut or intuition rather than experience.

Personally, I chose Replay Poker because after looking around, many people were saying Replay Poker is renowned for being genuine with its random number generator.

The funny thing is, if the site was rigged, the people complaining about are the ones who should be cleaning up. Chase all your flushes, don’t put money in with value unless a flush is not possible, etc. Imagine how bad you’d have to be to know how the site is rigged and still be losing.

I used a mobile poker app last year at one point, where you play against AI. After a bit of playing, I realised that I was getting way too many picture cards. Probably 70% of hands were 2 picture cards, a further 20% were one picture card. As I continued using it, I realised that I could actually control the cards dealt to the table. If I hit big on the flop, and then bet high, I would lose the hand. If I bet small, I would win. The turn and river basically got decided to minimise your winnings while making you think you had a chance. I tested the theory and it held true, so I deleted the app.

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Many years ago I played for real money online, quite a bit before it became illegal to where I’m from. Can’t remember the name of the site now, but they had an accumulating bad beat jackpot whereas the loser (or winner,lol) of the hand had to have quad 8’s or better and lose to get the jackpot.
I remember what I thought was my worst bad beat…
I had pocket aces, villain had pocket 8’s.
flop came out Axx, player with snowmen called my all in, turned an 8, I was still smiling, river an 8 and my jaw dropped, lol, think I broke it. I was still in the tourney, but not for long.

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Like I said above. Replay needs a reason to rig the site. They are not going to rig things for the hell of it. There is no gain to the site if they rig the game in favor of bad players. Bad players are the ones who buy chips more often. If you rig the site to help bad players win, YOUR BEST CUSTOMERS WILL BUY LESS CHIPS.

If Replay wanted to rig the game, they would rig it in favor of good players with higher bankrolls because those players are never going to buy chips. If you help those players beat the bad players more often, the bad players will buy chips even more often.

However, I have NOT SEEN ONE SINGLE COMPLAINT from anyone claiming that the site is rigged in favor of the good players. NOT ONE!

Every accusation … EVERY accusation is that the site is rigged in favor of FISH.

Guys, this is a play money site. If it’s a real money site it’s different. A real money site has an incentive to attract bad players, as softer sites get more traffic, so one could make a case that certain hands/tables are rigged to keep the whales hanging around. On a play money site, no one cares about that. It’s not an issue, so forget it.

These people who claim that the site is rigged in favor of bad players are a bunch of fish who simply refuse to believe that THEY ARE THE FISH!

Guys, just stfu and get better at poker.

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This was a slightly less than break-even day that should have been profitable. I can’t say I wasn’t warned after failing to rid myself of a trio of A2 opponents in my first two tournaments. Despite my repeatedly firing three barrels carefully crafted to represent top pair or better, each of them stubbornly clung to their bottom pair even after the river had brought them squadoosh. Not the best of omens.

Following those tournaments, I watched a video in which Daniel Negreanu wore a lavender t-shirt embroidered with the motto “Such Is Life” in what today would be termed a dreamy little woke font.

My spirits lifted, I rebounded to reach the final table of the Deep and Slow tournament that starts you at 5K in chips, allows for an immediate rebuy that a surprising amount of players eschew, putting them at a 50% disadvantage from the get go, and then an add-on after 16 minutes. If you follow the program, your stack is so Deep(!) and the blinds so Slow(!) that it’s practically a mortal sin not to money–usually 15 places–in this one.

Money I did, and arrived at the final table in a comfortable fourth place. From there, I progressed to a final six that was tightly balanced with everyone holding 80-120K in chips. It required nearly half an hour to loosen the knot. A player not named PickettPocket pulled most of the strings, accruing around 450K to my 200 when our head-to-head battle commenced.

At first, I ceded a bit more ground, then steadily ate away at his stack until I had a slight advantage. Not to be deterred, he clawed enough back to hold a 60K chip lead when the final hand played out.

On the button, I had K9c. He made the pot bet we had bilaterlally agreed upon as the standard pre-flop raise. The suited king emboldened me. I reraised. When he merely called, I saw no need for him to trap me as I had committed more than a third of my stack to the hand and thus concluded my king was so far so good.

The flop came 8-4-2. It fit the range I gave him better than it did mine, but not by much. He bet out, clearly wanting me to fold. I shoved. He called. My read was spot on. He showed an off-suit Q10.

Unfortunately, Arng, the Norse god of random number generators was unimpressed by my prescience and Fed-exed a queen on the turn, forcing me to settle for second place and just over 1M in chips.

Second from top was followed by second from bottom in a disastrous Galaktic Storm in which I busted out to yet another A2 that thought it should commit all its chips pre-flop against an AQ just a few hands into the tournament.

I retired to the ring games, breaking even at two six-handed tables whose players dispersed so quickly that I felt the need to sniff my armpits and pop in a breath mint. At last, I found myself nine-handed again with 1.5M to open in 5K/10K blinds.

Sadly, the galaktic storm conjured by Arng had followed me. When my 89d nestled into a 4-8-9 flop, I pot bet, unaware of the dark clouds gathering. Holding top two, the call from a short stack felt like it was backed by two overcards.

When a ten came on the turn, I set my trap with a check. It drew a bet. I shoved. The desired call revealed a K10.

For the second time on the day I had made the correct read in a pivotal hand. For some reason, however, Arng still had it in for me. A second ten came on the river, producing trips to kill my two pair.

Reduced to 1.1M, I soldiered on through the heavy rain that wore me down to around 880K. Again, I should have known that Arng, whose hammer cannot be named Mjolnir as it seems to have no concern at all for worthiness, was waiting when the clouds briefly parted.

Not being the religious sort, though, I raised a suited KQ. Arng laid a hand on the shoulder of the lone caller as the flop came K-7-10. First to act, my opponent bet into my top pair. I raised. Following a call and a deuce that was for once on the day irrelevant, Arng’s devout worshipper bet again.

I ran through the hand, furiously considering the possibilities in the ridiculously short time Replay allows for actual thought. Despite the pressure, I decided my king was good, that this person was most likely trying to represent a drawing hand as the goods, and shoved. Again, my opponent called, revealing an 89 which Arng sadistically gifted a six for the straight on the river.

In the end, three perfect reads had cost me around two million chips. Mark Twain once said, “The man who does not read holds no advantage over the one who can’t,” to which Arng had cheerily replied, “Hold my beer.”

Here’s where the Eckhart Tolle “School of Poker” graduates have the advantage.

No thinking!

LoL

For Entertainment Purposes Only!

First or second session I played here, I made quad sixes on the turn. Went all in and lost to a straight flush on the river. Odds of that happening are 1 in 1,833,716.

I am getting FED up with constant bad beat complaints, and accusutions of it being rigged.

I am playing at IGNITION ONLINE REAL MONEY POKER.

I have had bad runs of 65 bad beat outs short of cashing in tournaments in a row, 50 in a row, 33 in row 17, in a row, 9 in row.

I usually get bad beat about 3,4,5,6 times per tournament, compared to bad beating others about 1 time per 2.5 tournaments.

and the absolute worst it has been was being bad beated 15 times in 1 tournament, then losing 5 coinflips in the same tournament(3 times I had the pocket pair, 2 times I had AK overcards), then I had my 6 KK vs AA trainwrecks in the same tournament as the 15 bad beats, 5 lost coinflips, and then I had AA get bad beat 6 times in row all in preflop as part of the 15 bad beats, 5 lost coinflips, 6 my KK vs AA lost trainwrecks, and I didnt bad beat anybody even once. ALL IN THE SAME TOURNAMENT.

I am the ULTIMATE EXTREMELY BAD LUCK MURPHY OF POKER, WHERE EVERYTHING THAT CAN GO WRONG, DOES GO WRONG(USUALLY, ocasionally on extremely rare occasions I do get lucky, have my hands hold up, etc)

Despite all that, and Despite my $85 initial deposit bankroll going up to $200, Down to $13 up to $343 up to $358 down to $125 on a 50 average buy in bankroll, and almost busting whole bankroll, and bankroll going up and down like a yo yo, I am still technically profitable, making money(altho still dont know how with all the bs, lots of bad beats, with my murphy of poker bad luck, etc)(I must be extremely good enough, because if I wasnt as good, I would have busted bankroll a long time ago)

So I am sick and tired of all the bad beat, and rigged complaints.

Try playing Real money online poker and having my bad beats, my bad runs, my murphy of poker extreme bad luck, and get back to me.

Until then PLEASE SHUT YOUR CONSTANT NEVER ENDING BAD BEAT, RIGGED COMPLAINTS UP. ITS GETTING DARN ANNOYING

@Asuronetorius

So, are you now bragging about your Bad Beats in this post?

That’s a new one!! LOL!!!

Up and down BR is normal.

I wouldn’t trust any real money poker site

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It depends what you mean by trust. You can be sure the deal is not rigged on Ignition, because you can actually download complete hand histories with everyone’s hole cards… BUT… you can do that because everyone is anonymous, which makes bots and collusion harder to detect.

You won’t detect 2 ppl on the phone with each other. Not 100% effective for cheating but close. No stopping them from doing it here either.

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not only that, but super user accounts. players can see everyone’s cards

What is a “super user account”?

an online poker account capable of seeing opponents’ hole cards in real time, providing the ultimate ability to cheat.

Ok. Are you IMPLYING that’s what is happening here (ReplayPoker)?