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@napkin_holder

(1) Hurting someone’s feeling is not even a consideration in my objection to criticizing someone else’s strategies. I just don’t feel players should do it. Remember, I mentioned criticizing your own play is fine with me.

(2) I’m beginning to see where you are now coming from. Honestly, I’ve been thinking you just liked to argue. Now, I see you just want to fix my poker game.
Thanks, but my game is just fine with me right now and I don’t consider it broken. I’m still having fun whenever I play, even though no money is involved. The thrill is still there.

Some women always seem to want to fix me for some reason. Most guys really don’t care or give a …

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Are you considering dating men? Not that there’s anything wrong with that. :slight_smile:

ps, we’re offering opinions on your play, just as you do ours. It’s up to you to fix your game.

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It will just get merged back. : P

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We talk to each other like friends, not prospective employers, which means it can be informal and irreverent at times. We don’t treat strangers that way.

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The only reason to refuse to criticize is to be polite, and the only reason to be polite is to spare someone’s feelings, so it would be impossible for you to not consider anyone’s feelings.

Also, the only reason that someone would object to being criticized is to spare his own feelings. If you truly didn’t feel bad about the criticism and you felt that your game needed no improvement, you would not object to the criticism, you would just ignore it. ; )

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Sorry to reply a second time to the same comment but…

Do you realize that your “some women” remark wass incredibly sexist? I hope you didn’t, bc otherwise you’re just being hypocritical about the whole troll thing.

Here’s how things are: you offer differing views to our comments and we offer differing views to yours. This is known as criticizing one another. You may think you don’t do it, but just like you’ve insulted us without realizing it, you do. Now, we haven’t taken your insults personally. Instead, we’ve reacted like poker players by raising the stakes. If you don’t like that, you can fold. Personally, I’d rather you just keep coming at us. I enjoy it.

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You don’t seem to ever know what you’re writing about or understand what you have read. Even in this latest post, you are continuing to call out names, for some reason.

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He’s made a couple of borderline sexist comments today in a couple of different threads, but I don’t care.

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I read that perfectly. It was sexist. You said it to Napkin, not me, bc it was a gender-based comment. If you honestly think we’re attacking you without provocation, maybe you should unfriend us and go your own way because if you continue behaving as you are, this is how we’re going to respond. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

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If this is your reason for being polite then I guess you’ve never learned anything about common courtesy in conversations and discussions while growing up. Indicates and explains a lot of your posts.

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What part of my critique of your hand was rude or insulting? What part of it could have possibly hurt anyone’s feelings other than the critique itself?

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@napkin_holder @pickettpocket

I don’t think you will ever understand this poker etiquette. I’ve mentioned several times criticizing or critiquing your own play is okay with me. Because anyone who understands how to play poker wouldn’t really care about your opinion about your own play.
I’ve always felt this way for years and didn’t just feel this way because of your post.
Probably thousands of players have commented on this Forum in the last 5 years since I’ve been following it.
And, I’m pretty sure only you and pickettpocket are only ones who have criticized another’s play when the individual is not even around.
I’m certain it’s because no one else is as RUDE as you two. Or if they have, they quickly left this Forum not to bother the others who just want to discuss topics in a Polite Manner.

I’m not here to give you Poker Manner Lessons but this is the 2nd time in less than 6 months. Since it appears you’ve learned a lot about poker from several books, you should find one about Poker etiquette playing in a public setting.

Here is an A.I. response to my question about what both of you have been doing and maybe something will sink in.

The Over / Under doesn’t look good for either of you.

Question to A.I.:

what is the poker etiquette about criticizing another player’s play when they are not even around

The A.I. Response:

In poker, etiquette isn’t just about how you act at the table—it’s also about how you talk about others when they’re not there. Criticizing another player’s play behind their back is generally considered poor form. Here’s why:

:performing_arts: Respect the Game and the Players Poker thrives on a mix of skill, psychology, and unpredictability. Even if someone made a questionable move, talking about it when they’re not present can come off as petty or unsportsmanlike. It can also create a toxic atmosphere, especially if others feel like they might be next.

:brain: Everyone Plays Differently What seems like a bad play to one person might be part of a larger strategy—or just a learning moment. Poker tables are full of players with different experience levels, and part of the etiquette is allowing space for that diversity without judgment.

:zipper_mouth_face: Save the Analysis for Later If you’re itching to dissect a hand, it’s best done in a neutral, educational setting—like a study group or forum – where the goal is to learn, not to mock. Even then, anonymizing the player or situation is a good move.

:speech_balloon: What You Say Reflects on You Constantly criticizing others, especially when they’re not around to respond, can make you seem insecure or arrogant. In poker, as in life, grace and humility go a long way.

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napkin told me it would just merge back… :P… if it does… and I cant talk about real replay stats here… Ill ask chase the river to look into it for me… he is on my friend’s list… abd i can and will send him a privet msg…

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Yes, she told you that if we changed the title of the thread, it would just get merged back to the original title. I don’t know, but that’s probably true.

Meanwhile, I told you we weren’t talking about replay stats because we don’t find them all that informative, and did so bc it seemed like you thought we were discussing them. I didn’t say you couldn’t mention them. Have at it if you like. What do you draw from yours?

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Not that I’m one for allowing a machine to tell me what to do, but do you see the part that says to analyze in a STUDY GROUP or FORUM? That would be here.

Now, if you want us to keep things nameless, don’t compare your methods to ours, because no one else was mentioned.

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This has nothing to do with poker etiquette, so you either don’t know what that is, or you are simply deflecting from the topic, and judging by your long-winded roundabout non-answer to my very simple and direct question, that is precisely what you are doing. So to that I ask, if we can’t discuss and critique hands on this forum, where can we, and why does a forum actually called ‘hand review’ even exist?

That is pure baloney. Every hand posted on this forum criticizes the play of someone who is not around. Just yesterday, someone posted a hand, and three of us discussed in detail, the Villain’s play just as much as the Hero’s play, and the Villain is someone who is not participating in the forum at all (ie: not around). Every hand posted here has some element of that. Also, when we discuss your hand, you actually ARE AROUND! You also love the attention.

And this is hardly the first time that you have been rude to me. And I still don’t give a damn how rude you want to be to me, but keep it up, whatever. In the meantime, look in the mirror/pot meet kettle, etc etc, blah blah blah, yadayadayada …

AI response??? Srsly??? Pfft.

So you can’t even point to one line, one word in my critique of your hand that is specifically rude. That means that you are simply butthurt that you were criticized at all. Someone on the internet doesn’t think that you’re perfect and you start to whine about it. That is nothing but a bruised ego, so don’t blame me. Grow up. Or don’t. I don’t care, but the choice is yours. Just stop blaming me (or anyone else) for your own choices or your own bruised ego.

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As I expected I was correct that neither @napkin_holder or @pickettpocket understood my post. I just used the A.I. as a reference of what I’ve been saying for a couple of weeks now.

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Still trying to act like you’re better while complaining you’re the victim. We know why you used it, but it doesn’t support your argument even if a computer was the absolute expert on human behavior. We’re talking about specific hands in the recommended place, after the fact, as advised. As I said, if you can’t handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.